tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1317770170474039861.post6012502976885489340..comments2024-03-28T18:48:17.656-05:00Comments on Jeff Bergosh Blog: A Disastrous Deal for Taxpayers: The Beach Club Lease Renewal of January, 2018Jeff Bergoshhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12638001957494810839noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1317770170474039861.post-25784518107780144912018-12-28T21:50:22.987-06:002018-12-28T21:50:22.987-06:00Merry Christmas Happy New Year Do the people who l...Merry Christmas Happy New Year Do the people who live there and lease there want Escambia County to give.. Seriously. GIVE.. The leased property to them? Dude Looks like a lady seems to advocate that... So sell it to them?? I think this is just going to go on and on and on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1317770170474039861.post-31393637861874977292018-12-25T09:16:01.095-06:002018-12-25T09:16:01.095-06:00Merry Christmas to Anonymous and the "Last Sa...Merry Christmas to Anonymous and the "Last Sane Person on Earth." I do not believe fee simple is in the cards any time soon, too heavy a lift given all that has transpired over the last 18 months on that topic. Additionally, the BCC has taken an official position of no position on this matter. With this as the backdrop, and making no value judgments as to what is better, lease fees or fee simple, I believe we MUST go to plan B, which is ensuring lease fees for newly renegotiated leases match what ad valorem revenue would be or would have been for the same property. We also need to let the owners of the properties make the choice upon renegotiation: 99 year perpetually-renewing lease or 99 year lease with option to re negotiate and renew at the end of the term. But in either case, full taxes or market rate lease fee with ENFORCED CPI escalation clause added. This way, everyone pays full rate, no more wink and nod sweetheart deals like Beach Club. That disaster, which is being looked at closely as we speak, was a scandal. And the amount being charged does not even come close to what was mandated through a 1985 addendum to that lease. Not sure about how/why that happened but I have several folks looking at that deal under a microscope. We cannot ever allow that sort of game to be run on the taxpayers. Anonymous, I appreciate your complimentary words, and I certainly do not mind going after the problems and leading the way to a solution. But it has been one thing after another since I got on this board. I can't wait to actually start working proactively for the county rather than re actively. Hopefully we can start this in 2019?Jeff Bergoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12638001957494810839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1317770170474039861.post-54543415753774164142018-12-24T14:23:43.934-06:002018-12-24T14:23:43.934-06:00 edit *brightest bulbs edit *brightest bulbsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1317770170474039861.post-45142450272494857582018-12-23T16:33:58.764-06:002018-12-23T16:33:58.764-06:00Who is on the hook for cleaning rubble on Pensacol...Who is on the hook for cleaning rubble on Pensacola beach after the next hurricane? <br /><br />If fee simple makes the people, who in my opinion, are foolish enough and are risk takers to actually build something on a barrier island responsible to clean up then go to fee simple. It should have never been built on in the first place. Wise man builds his house upon a rock, foolish man builds his house upon the sand. <br /><br />Get the money in the general fund of the county for ad valorum and put the cost for the clean up on the ones who chose to build there. <br /><br />The tourists come over the mainland roads and clog up traffic so lets get the money for infrastructure in the budget for the rest of the county.<br /><br />Thanks for trying to sort this out although there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, you seem to be destined for some of the harder jobs in the county because you have a backbone and a brain. Great combination. <br /><br /><br />We did the non binding referendum and most don't want more building out there, so honor that, oh and don't sink debt in stupid pedestrian tunnels and round abouts. How asinine is that? Funny dudes from Gulf Breeze want that and no one is having a cow, like the PEDC Gulf Breeze whiners. <br /><br />Even if it does make a bunch of yellow shirt Democrat women all riled up, do it if you can't get an equitable lease fee settlement otherwise.<br /> <br />Democrats these days are not the smartest bulbs on the ole Christmas tree ya know. I mean they don't want a wall? How crazy is that?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1317770170474039861.post-38551821443669961892018-12-22T23:22:40.162-06:002018-12-22T23:22:40.162-06:00As Jeff has stated in the past, we can structure t...As Jeff has stated in the past, we can structure the lease fees and taxes to match what the property taxes would be if they owned the land with out fee simple. We just need to do it. Scott Trotternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1317770170474039861.post-70748364421738987882018-12-19T21:45:12.721-06:002018-12-19T21:45:12.721-06:00Keep after it Commissioner! Our county needs the ...Keep after it Commissioner! Our county needs the revenue. We also need transparency and fairness.<br /><br />I’m convinced that we need to transition to fee simple on the beach. If I am correct, we will eventually get there. The only unanswered question is how much tax revenue our county will forgo before we come to our senses and take action.The last sane person on Earthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08133400723847044879noreply@blogger.com