With respect to taxpayers funding legal defense for a commissioner's impending lawsuit, citizens are saying "talk to the hand" about that plan.... |
My email box is blowing up with angry citizen and constituent emails demanding that the BCC NOT pay legal bills for the D2 commissioner who is apparently once again being sued for libel-- according to the PNJ and Rick's Blog.
Of course the decision on whether or not to pay for a defense will be a full-board decision based upon all factors including relevant state statutes, county policy, and our county attorney's opinion. Meanwhile, folks are saying "no way."
From the email (s)
Citizens are emailing and saying "no way" to taxpayer funded legal expenses for a commissioner being sued for libel... |
From another citizen:
"Good evening Commissioners.
I am asking Commissioners Jeff Bergosh, Lumon May, Robert Bender, and Steven Barry to deny any request from Commissioner Doug Underhill for legal fees to be paid with our tax dollars.
Commissioner Douglas Underhill is a grown man fully capable of taking care of his own legal fees and he can say or write anything he wants however, it is his moral and financial responsibility when our citizens decide to hold him accountable for slanderous and/or libelous statements (written or verbal).
One could even argue that Jacqueline Aimee Rogers and her Escambia Citizens Watch Group (ECW) could have some culpability for allowing Douglas Underhill to continually violate the groups rules without removing Douglas Underhill’s membership privileges?
Commissioner Doug Underhill was clearly speaking for himself from his personal Facebook account on ECW (NOT GOVERNMENT BUSINESS) and he Clearly has publicly made a case that his personal Facebook account is not governed by the county board of commissioners policies!
Please commissioners, do not even entertain the idea of paying for Commissioner Douglas Underhill’s legal fees or put it on the agenda review or commission meeting for a vote. No need to even discuss it at the commission meetings or agenda review, ever, this is a private sector civil case having nothing to do with our county government.
I’m sure there will be many more slander/libel lawsuits to come for Mr. Douglas Underhill, we the taxpayers do not want to pay our hard earned money for Douglas Underhill “running his suck”, as Douglas says to others.
Commissioner Doug Underhill also says publicly that our county wastes too much tax dollars on frivolous expenditures and I would consider Douglas Underhill’s (slander/libel) defense legal fees a frivolous expenditures to the ninth degree!"
...and another...
"Gentleman,
We are not in favor of spending taxpayer money
for defense of Libel/ Slander lawsuit for Douglas Underhill. We feel comments
made on Social media should not be considered a board action but the person who
made them should be held responsible.
I have not been a fan of the uncivil attitude
brought in by this member of the board and frankly this one latest suit could
be considered the tip of the iceberg if a class action began. Just say NO."
...and another...
"Dear all,
This is precisely the reason that I have urged the BOCC to
censure Commissioner Underhill throughout the course of the last year. His
conduct--an acknowledged problem that has been publicly discussed on the
dais--is a great liability to his peers, administration, staff, and the
taxpayers of this County.
I'm sure it is not lost on many that in Commissioner Underhill's comments about Rolling Hills, he doesn't just aim his accusations at Mr. Miller, but also accuses past Administrator Larry Newsom of conspiring with Mr. Miller to defraud citizens and benefit financially.
If the County defends this lawsuit, isn't it tantamount to saying that the taxpayers should fund officials who libel the County administration?"
I'm sure it is not lost on many that in Commissioner Underhill's comments about Rolling Hills, he doesn't just aim his accusations at Mr. Miller, but also accuses past Administrator Larry Newsom of conspiring with Mr. Miller to defraud citizens and benefit financially.
If the County defends this lawsuit, isn't it tantamount to saying that the taxpayers should fund officials who libel the County administration?"
...and another...
"Gentlemen,
As an involved citizen that has asked you all to take action
regarding Commissioner Underhill's past actions I come to you now and ask that
you give serious thought as to the responsibility of the citizens to pay for
any legal defense of a narcissistic motor mouth that seems unable to haved a
rational conversation with ANYONE who dis agrees with him.
You haved seen his words, captured in print, accusing both
Miller and Newsome of "illegal and racially discriminatory"
activities. He did this from his personal FB page while blocking many of his
constituents from seeing and/or responding in violation of County policy AND
State of Florida law. He posted FROM his personal FB page to a private FB page
that purports to be representative of the citizen's however 100's have been
blocked from participating on this forum.
I cannot see how we, the citizens should suffer the the cost
of his irresponsible actions.
Please deny ANY TAX PAYER MONEY for this purpose."
...and another...
"I wrote a letter last night urging you to NOT
pay personal liability suit to Underhill and we stand by that. His
behavior is an ongoing problem, so do not encourage his incivility please.
These comments were made on facebook under a discussion about ST and as usual
Underhill just resorts to name calling.
I am aware of problems with Rolling Hills and
problems should be addressed in meetings with staff and county admin and legal
in a civil setting, not on facebook during a discussion about ST. aerospace.
You can search ECW and find it, they are also engaged with Florida West
president. It's a typical Underhill Post. I watch them in horror and disgust on
a regular basis.
It absurd for him to say he was asking the hard
questions."
Well now you are on the subject.. what do you all think of Underhill passing emails to admins/owner of ECW when she was involved in lawsuits with the county? Sector Plan ? Conflict of interest? NIMBY?.. hello? How about involvement to keep that Beach we bought with taxpayer money? How is he even still on the board?
ReplyDeleteHe isn't fooling everyone. The BOA on beach front --- the posts today that Perdido is not engineered. Yes it is. Look into the inlet management plan. You gave him 20k for his personal slush fund there..didn't ya..also gave him 50 k when he asked for a change order on the living shore line..Memba? Why did you all let him take That $$..right out in the sunshine?? Laughing at you?
Open our beach. Don't pay for him to be a jerk, especially when he uses you all too. Pay Attention.
Actually Commissioner, you SHOULD pay his fees. We already know what will happen if you don't. He'll go out and raise a ton of money from real estate guys for his "legal defense fund," and a year later, previously protected land on Perdido Key will have condos on it.
ReplyDeleteIf you're not going to crack down on his influence peddling, you might as well let tax-payers participate in the bid for his vote.
Notice Underhill is not using his personal f/b profile on Escambia Citizen Watch but is suddenly now using his Red Shirt Commissioner account on the ECW page? LOL.
ReplyDeleteDon't put a penny toward citizens Dougie Poo libel/slander lawsuit, if the county does decide to defend this there is a horde of citizen's waiting for the precedent.
ReplyDeleteThere is a multitude, legion that he has publicly, in writing, done the same to.
Or if you do decide to--then you may be ready to empty the county's coffers and allow his reign of terror.
Because many have a list--complete with screen shots.
He is now commenting, not as citizen Douglas on ECW but using his official title, do not be fooled by that.
People need to go to the county web site, pull of the video on ECTV and at least watch the first several minutes of the public forum portion of the special meeting for June 17, 2019. Powerful.
ReplyDeleteToo bad bias PNJ nor ECW won't cover this. It may help people understand a few things.
Underhill had not even been served but it is apparent the public is fed up with the abuses.
He is already back on face book calling people stark raving lunatics.
ReplyDeleteI think Underhill is mad because yesterday he wanted to try to make the four of you look bad and him the hero because of the way some money is left on projects but he could not say much because suddenly he may need your vote to pay for his abusive mouth. He was served during that meeting.
ReplyDeleteToday there is a PNJ article about a citizen committee and he is also mad because things didn't go his way. He is calling people immoral and lunatic again. He can't even go 24 hours.
His behavior keeps people from discussing things. I will not be any where near him.
I was new and tried to get into discussions and he called me names and scorned me in a public forum and I wasn't even talking to him. To put it mildly, I can't stand him. He is a dangerous person and should be in jail.
At least don't pay for this lawsuit.
It is a shame that Barry still seems to want a non adversarial approach and he may thinks this guy can correct himself.
He has a mental condition and it is apparent.
He is trying to blame this and play victim that it is costing him because he is bucking the system. Does he believe his own lies? No the problem and responsibility is on him and him alone.
ReplyDeleteHe just asked someone if they were either a liar or a fool on Facebook, ECW. Don't think people aren't watching.
ReplyDeleteit was deleted but screen shot
ReplyDeleteI just ask you to vote no on this funding for Underhill's legal fees
ReplyDeleteThe Underhill Morgan alliance is not boding well. Who knew Morgan had so many lawsuits to defend. Was the money budgeted to the sheriff department to fund legal defenses for their own shortcomings as leaders rather to really address deputy pay.
ReplyDeleteNote who covered for them and even spoke at public hearing to raise the millage 2017.
I think it's time corrupt officials pay for their own legal defense. They didn't even want to comport the LETF to statute without your leadership Commissioner Bergosh.