Apparently, a member of the HR staff sat down and asked our employee, the medical director, to answer the questions or portions of the questions I had put forward that HR staff could not they, themselves, answer.
I have more questions now, based upon this response, and some of these answers do not square with what others have stated. I will probably have follow on questions to these answers--but at least they got me these answers.
Here they are....I'll let these answers "speak for themselves......"
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is this the guy that had a piece of paper blow out the window and is now an overblown HIPPA violation, that I believe cooler head said it's not worth the reaction it's getting?
How many people have resigned lately in EMS?
Is there no end to the lies that this woman will tell?
Thank you for your continued efforts with this, Commissioner Bergosh. I just had a chance to read the response to your questions carefully, as I was focused today on documentation on the County's Unlawful Harassment Policy and its evolution over the course of 2018. I posted my Sunshine emails per that subject on the Facebook forum Escambia Public Forum:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2631052333584444/permalink/2844167015606307/
Yes, you're certainly right. I can think of a dozen or so questions that immediately come to mind. But first and foremost, for now:
Who wrote this response?
--Melissa Pino
After reading the policy Mellisa made available and all the other post and comments related to this I have a couple of observations or questions.
With all of the County’s confusion and problems related to this topic it’s surprising that training appears to be left to the individual and department directors.
Has the medical director reported her romantic relationship with a subordinate, which is strongly discouraged, as MANDATED by this policy?
Jeff Bergosh, I have some questions concerning this matter myself after reading all of your blogs on it. According to HR response to you as reported in your Dec 20 blog entry to your first question, When did Edler contact DOH, how and documentation.
Form filled out May 16
Edler indicated the letter and packet submitted and received by DOH Investigative unit May 21, 2019 at 10:07 am.
Yet in the HR response provided to you most recently to answer the questions you requested more information on it states that and I quote "DOH confirmed the receipt of the materials forwarded by Dr. Edler on June 19, 2019."
So which version is correct and more importantly why the discrepancy to begin with?
The other thing that is really concerning is why she felt the need to mention the QA/QI process is not discoverable and cannot be used in legal action?
Then the next paragraph is about as muddy as the mighty Mississippi River, when this sentence is revealed, "Dr. Edler stated that Matt Selover was not held accountable for major infractions she was bringing forward from June;"
So this is where the "appearance of retaliation" crops up as it appears she is on a vendetta to correct what she feels is Mr. Salters lack of discipline the year before. When she herself recognizes that she has no managerial or administrative responsibilities...... and now Mr. Salter is gone as well, based on her concerns laid out in an email to County Administrator.
Does this follow county procedures in the execution of all of this after a harassment claim was filed by Mr Selover on May 1, 2019, I believe?
Has the County received the final report concerning Matt Selovers case from the DOH as of yet? If not, why was his summary judgement from HR held up for so long and impact his job performance and earnings? Were they waiting on the report to finalize his "disciplinary action" and terminate his employment? It appears to me that Dr. Edler while having no authority over such issues has most definitely had an impact in spite of that.
Why wasn't Matt told of the decision to report him to the DOH immediately after the April 23 meeting if it was decided by the board members at that time? What is the County process for such issues? Why was Dr. Edler allowed to seek written memorandum from the other board members after the fact? Why wasn't a declaration formulated at that time to formally start the process of reporting and notifying Matt of same?
So many questions and every time I read more of the "answers" provided more pop up in my mind..... Hopefully we will come to some sort of resolution and resolve this whole mess....soon
Dr. Edlers County issued SUV is currently in the Baptist Hospital ER parking lot. She is currently inside being paid by Baptist as an employee. Can I get a county vehicle to drive to my job at the expense of the taxpayer.
She can do whatever she wants. She can threaten us employees at will, hamper operations, date employees, have employees come paint her house for free, sue citizens, close her door and not communicate with anyone. There are no consequences for her.
They refuse to enforce any county rules, policies or procedures with her. She’s a loose cannon and can do whatever she wants and will be allowed to destroy anyone who doesn’t bow to her.
There are so many holes and inconsistencies in this account (both internal to this document and in reference to other documents), Commissioner Bergosh, along with innuendo that should bear no place in an official HR document, that it would take another doc three times as long to lay it all out.
Here are a handful more general questions.
Commissioner Underhill stated on the dais that 2 people from Public Safety had "self reported" to him about certification problems. He has since stated in a Sunshine email that these self-reports came in anonymously. Now, anybody with even a modicum of common sense knows to go to the window and look if Doug says it's raining, with your best odds being that it's sunny with a warm southwest breeze. (Granted, it may very well be raining in his mind.)
Q1. So one of my questions is this. Did anyone at the County ever do a follow-up on his statement? I mean, an earnest one that didn't rely on him as the final answer.
I've already asked why HR took as evidence the statement of an employee whose resignation the County had already accepted--a bizarre practice, to say the least.
Q2. Here's another thought: is it possible that one or both of the two people who self-reported to Underhill have sat a QA board during the last year and a half? Perhaps even Mr. Selover's?
Q3. Finally, if it's found that any of the statements in this document, or statements provided to HR, are false, will there be repercussions for those who made them?
Q4. If so, what would those repercussions be?
Just a reminder on my previous question--it would be nice to know who the author of the document is. Or, perhaps, authors. It bounces around a lot in terms of uncertain timeline, strange transitions of tense and chronology, and subject matter. Not to mention the somewhat disjointed order of subject matters, informal presentation, and patchy clauses. It almost has the feel of a group effort. At least, when I was grading English papers, that might have been my gut, even if I couldn't have proven it.
--Melissa Pino
Fact check this if you will:
Ammons went to Underhill and Ammons is on the QA board. The elephant in the room is the Underhill connection in all this.
Why is there uneven enforcement and his involvement? From calling Weaver into his office,
To disrespect of interim admin Lavoy's decisions
To undermine the decision to let Nail stay resigned
To offering his office for Nail to work from
To the support of Edler's Go fund me on his commissioner page
To the public post of them being facebook friends demonstrated by tagging, via when they were using the wife's page to post county business on this
To the collection of screen shots for the lawsuit toward the citizen Melissa Pino
Do you think that's why he is on a soapbox on facebook calling everybody in the world corrupt but him this weekend? SOP
Do you think he is mentally unsound and should be censured or removed from office also?
He is gearing up for this meeting, maybe he will drink him self sick and miss it and let others say he is on military duty when in fact he posted his National guard station closed.
Waiting until Tuesday. Hope the other four support you and it's not a flop because they have no backbone and it's reelection time and they think no one is paying attention.
Wrong.
Navy reserves not National guard.
There are two dubious aspects of Edler's statement.
1. Spainhower notified her that she was under investigation due to a complaint by Selover on a call regarding the QA/QI board?
2. Edler acted within the scope of the policy and/or SOP governing the QA/QI board?
Why didn't the board and administrator during the meeting just go ahead and say:
"What we are talking about is the " THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR HARASSES PEOPLE" instead of allowing the chairman to deflect and say it's about the administration?
Do you need a child to tell you the Emperor is not wearing clothes?
You all know she has sued a citizen for trying to bring this to your attention. Right?
Employee of the year. Shout out to Selevor.
The employees know you are standing up for all.
Terminate Edler.
Jeff has been screaming from the mountain top for over a month trying to bring light to this situation and the county has failed to remedy the situation. It is unfortunate that this will now result in yet another lawsuit against the county.
When you are the EMS Medical Director for all of Escambia County, responsible for the provision of high quality prehospital medical care and on call 24/7 you, too, may have a county vehicle. When, in order to maintain your Board Certification in Emergency Medicine you must practice Emergency Medicine, and you must be available to respond at a moments notice, you can have a county vehicle. Thank God she was one of the Emergency Medicine physicians on call on the morning of the mass shooting at Pensacola NAS and part of the team that responded mitigating loss of life where able. I believe she and the Baptist team and county public safety received public praise for their actions. I hope this answers your questions “anonymous”
When you are the EMS Medical Director for all of Escambia County, responsible for the provision of high quality prehospital medical care and on call 24/7 you, too, may have a county vehicle. When, in order to maintain your Board Certification in Emergency Medicine you must practice Emergency Medicine, and you must be available to respond at a moments notice, you can have a county vehicle. Thank God she was one of the Emergency Medicine physicians on call on the morning of the mass shooting at Pensacola NAS and part of the team that responded mitigating loss of life where able. I believe she and the Baptist team and county public safety received public praise for their actions. I hope this answers your questions “anonymous”
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