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| This email, above, was sent to all commissioners yesterday morning by local physician Dr. Myhuong Nguyen. At first, I thought it was a hoax job. I was wrong though... |
Board members received the innocuous looking email, above, yesterday morning from a "Dr. Myhuong Nguyen."
It was fascinating, and had an attachment that held interesting, intriguing yet controversial opinions and data about COVID-19, vaccinations, Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine, India, Africa and Israel within it.
A lot of it looked like some conspiracy theory email strings I've received in the past. I was natually skeptical
Could this be real--could this be the real opinion (s) from a real local Doctor?
For a minute there, I thought I was falling for some kind of a prank job like the crass, yet iconic scene from 1980's coming of age comedy "Porky's." But it wasn't a prank.
I looked her up on Google. Yes, this is a real doctor in Pensacola.
But could someone be throwing out information and just using her name? Well, maybe. So I emailed her back--and she responded. She emailed me her contact information and then we spoke. At length.
WOW-what a bombshell conversation and an extremely intelligent individual! (I've asked her and she has agreed to be my guest on my December Coffee with the Commissioner)
She got her medical degree from Johns Hopkins and she has spent the last 18 years as an emergency medical physician in the Ascension Sacred Heart Emergency room in Pensacola. She left in September to start her own practice as she felt she could be doing more to help more patients in a different setting.
But the bombshell claim she makes is very intriguing:
The media is not telling the truth about the vaccines, ivermectin and alternative, yet less expensive and equally effective treatments for COVID-19. They (the media) are not telling the story of ivermectin's success in places like sub-saharan Africa and in India.
"Ivermectin is extremeley effective at treating COVID-19 and I have been prescribing it for patients here locally, in Colorado, and Atlanta---but pharmacies are not filling the prescriptions!" she stated flatly...
"HOW can they do that? How can they tell a doctor what she can or cannot prescribe for her patients?" I asked.
"I had my hippocratic oath taken from me" she exclaimed angrily.
I asked her about all the media ganging up on ivermectin to poke fun at it as a horse dewormer and quack science-- which she explained as follows. She went into great detail describing the paste form of Ivermectin that is pre-measured for animals that are 1200 pounds. "It simply cannot be dosed accurately for humans--so people have made errors in taking this and ended up seizing and needing intubation" she described. The media then pick these stories up and report them."
She continued:
"They [media] know it [Ivermectin]has been around for decades and has an impeccable safety record; it is used for river blindness and is known to have antiviral properties as well--but there is a push to downplay Ivermectin in favor of the experimental vaccines!"
"Is this all about money?" I asked. "I'm afraid it looks like it is" she stated dryly. "I absolutely do NOT support the vaccines for children either" she offered
I told her one of my best friends, Brad Crager, died of COVID-19 and that event led me to getting the shots. I have had two Moderna shots.
"Are the shots effective" I asked her bluntly: "They are experimental, and we have seen a lot of patients, even locally, harmed by the vaccines. And we are seeing in Israel, for instance, that even with vaccination rates exceeding 87% they are having patients who are vaccinated getting sick and dying. It is very concerning what is happening there" She continued "And then you have parts of India where there are millions of residents and they have flattened the curve TWICE using ivermectin early in a patient's diagnosis"
Curiously--I asked her if I was a patient who had recently contracted COVID-19--what would she prescribe for me. She asked me for my weight, 200 pounds.
"So for you I would prescribe 18 mg Ivermectin once daily for five days, along with Zinc, D3, Vitamin C. If after 7 days you didn't improve, I would add the hydroxychloroquine."
"I guarantee you, your friend who died last January, if he had been given these medicines, he could have survived."
Wow. Talk about interesting. I want to know more.
I can't wait for our follow-on conversation and our discussion on December's Coffee with the Commissioner. Should be very interesting.
"I will bring several more doctors on the show if that is alright--two of whom are the best in our area and who are now no longer working because of the vaccine mandate" she stated.
"By all means, bring them. The more the better--I'll send you the Zoom invitation"
19 comments:
Why did this novel coronavirus suddenly appear?
Where did it originate?
Why did it spread globally so quickly?
Why is it mutating?
What can be done?
Why are people fighting vaccine mandates?
What happened with polio?
What happened with smallpox?
What about public health measures passed one hundred years ago?
The Vaers is self reported anonymous gobblygook.
You need to check this Dr's credentials. They are making a killing off telemedicine appts.
Look -- I'm not for communism and totalitarism but I think De Santis has it assbackwards. Maybe? I think lockdowns are bad but he should encourage vaccines. Of course they aren't perfect, but you heard what the hospital administrators reported back in the summer. hospitalizations and deaths were unvaccinated.
Certainly it doesn't hurt to hear someone out.
This entire COVID fiasco is mind boggling.
Also get a molecular biologist on there. Seriously an MD license is not always the end all do all of the matter.
The ridiculous fear of the mRNA vaccines is crazy. Then people will run take the monoclonal antibodies after they won't take the vaccine. WTH is the difference.
I'm not political about this but trying to find the truth.
The school board did seem to find the common sense approach... been watching that link on their page. Over 99 percent are unaffected, when they are they go home.
Hell even Aaron Rogers quarterback showed up..ya know.. 10 days later..Hail Mary Full of Grace..
She "guaranteed" you that if your friend had been given ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine your friend would have lived? Guaranteed? Really? Didn't know professional medical people talked that way.
She's very suspicious that drug companies are making money, but she didn't mention how much foot traffic she's generated by riding the ivermectin band wagon?
She mentions a very specific form of overdose that we've seen with ivermectin... but just vague "problems" with the vaccines (are they worse than dying?)
And she actually falls back on the unbelievably ignorant fallacy that because vaccinated people can still get sick, then that proves the vaccine doesn't work. Apparently she doesn't understand that if something is 90% effective, it's 10% ineffective.
Commissioner Bergosh.. did you ask her any type of challenging question at all before you posted this very dangerous bit of misinformation bullshit on your blog and gave her some free advertising? I hope you'll ask some of the senior MDs from Baptist and Sacred Heart to your little coffee as well and find out what they think of your conspiracy theory.
https://hopkinsinfectiousdiseases.jhmi.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/6-9-21_Update_JHMI-Recommendations-for-COVID-19-Therapeutics.pdf
"Agents to avoid for treatment of COVID-19 outside of a clinical trial: Because there is no or
inadequate evidence of efficacy or effectiveness, the following agents are not recommended for treatment
of COVID-19 specifically in hospitalized patients (but they may be administered in clinical trials). There is
no evidence that any of the agents below are harmful when prescribed for the treatment of other
conditions in patients with COVID-19 (more information).
ACE inhibitors or ARBs
(initiation or d/c)
Azithromycin
Baloxavir marboxil
Colchicine
Darunavir/ritonavir
DAS 181
Famotidine
Favipiravir*
Fluvoxamine
Hydroxychloroquine
Indomethacin or other
NSAIDs
Ivermectin
Lopinavir/ritonavir
Nitazoxanide
Oseltamivir
Ribavirin
Umifenovir*
Vitamin C
Vitamin D
Zinc"
right there published by John Hopkins this year
again
"Because there is no or inadequate evidence of their efficacy or effectiveness or evidence of a lack of
efficacy, the following agents are not recommended for treatment of COVID-19, specifically, in
hospitalized patients, except when administered in a clinical trial. There is no evidence that any of the
following agents are harmful when prescribed to treat other conditions in patients with COVID-19.
- Angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors or angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARBs), either
initiation or discontinuation of use
- Aspirin
- Azithromycin
- Baloxavir marboxil
- Colchicine
- Darunavir/ritonavir
- DAS 181
- Famotidine
- Favipiravir (not FDA-approved or available in the United States)
- Fluvoxamine
- Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)*
- Indomethacin or other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs)
- Ivermectin
- Lopinavir/ritonavir
- Nitazoxan"
John Hopkins recommends to avoid the treatment this MD is prescribing
Read it for yourself, if you will.
https://hopkinsinfectiousdiseases.jhmi.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/6-9-21_Update_JHMI-Recommendations-for-COVID-19-Therapeutics.pdf
Recent publication.
JHMI Clinical Recommendations for Pharmacologic Treatment
of COVID-19
Updated 6/9/2021 and replaces the version of April 5, 2021; COVID-19 Treatment Guidance Writing Group
of Johns Hopkins University and The Johns Hopkins Hospital COVID-19 Treatment Guidance Working Group
^^^^
Page 21
Agents to avoid
Published from John Hopkins
Right there.
Sounds like you have a quack.
Sounds like a duck, looks like a duck, walks like a duck..
Quack Quack.
https://wikipedikia.org/why-is-the-doctor-called-a-quack/
Get the booster
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/booster-shot.html
Anonymous 12:12, I read that entirely different than what you are inferring as far as when those are ineffective. From your own quote " the following agents are not recommended for treatment of COVID-19, specifically, in hospitalized patients" key word being hospitalized. The suggested use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine is right after diagnosis of Covid and BEFORE hospitalization is required.
I see you were quick to provide a link to a study that disputes the effectiveness of those, so you should be able to locate and read the article that contains the following:
"Conclusions:
Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified.
Keywords: ivermectin, COVID-19, infectious disease, pulmonary infection, respiratory failure"
I would point out the line that states " Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin." Read that again and understand that this information is straight from the NIH website.
prophylaxis [ proh-fuh-lak-sis, prof-uh- ] noun
Medicine/Medical.
the preventing of disease.
the prevention of a specific disease, as by studying the biological behavior, transmission, etc., of its causative agent and applying a series of measures against it.
So, are you so sure of it's inability to treat people and why? Because you read an article that supports your foregone conclusion that it doesn't is why. I would like for the good doctor to be able to treat her patients the way she and they have agreed upon. Seeing as how Ivermectin is used for other diseases and has been used safely in treating people for years now, I personally think it is another of the choices that should be made available to make their own choices in how they treat covid, the same as they are able to make the decision on vaccination.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/
Note MD does say she is from John Hopkins and note a panel of other MD recommend it be used only in clinical trials. Hence the John Hopkins article.
True perhaps I did go too far calling her a quack. Normally I think I'm fairly open minded but I think if more people would have immediately and will take the vaccine, it helps to stop the rampant transmission.
I don't think people have the same liberty in a public heath crisis as they do about other things, but I doubt I will file lawsuits and all that nonsense because I can avoid vectors. I still wear a mask in public places although triple jabbed. I've work in molecular biology labs and other settings and am not ready to be inconvenienced from this novel RNA particle.
They repurposed Ivermectin prior to the vaccines and the monoclonal antibody therapy. That's all they had. It gave people hope.
Of course being dewormed and more healthy may help an individual be less susceptible to a fatality from an infection and it does have antiviral properties. It doesn't seem to cause harm, we give it to dogs.
People need to get over their fear of modern medicine and come out of the dark continent medieval medical mindset and fear of science.
The technology of mRNA had been studied for 30 years and it helped to move this vaccine out sooner because they didn't have to culture and attenuate the actual virus because we now have the ability to map the genome and identify the protein.
It's actual fascinating to study virology and molecular medicine if people would take the time to research it and not get in chat room shouting at each other. (unless one likes that sort of thing)
****** Breaking**********
The Coronavirus Crisis
The FDA authorizes COVID booster shots for all U.S. adults
November 19, 20218:37 AM ET
Refuse to live in fear, take one for the team.
Sure ... get dewormed also.. It might not hurt.
This person states it well/ I agree.
https://www.pnj.com/story/opinion/2021/11/20/desantis-florida-lawmakers-upstaging-pt-barnum-covid-circus-guestview/8656642002/
I took some time to reread this case study, to me it elevates the discussion about vaccine mandates to note the history and law.
I think the state should mandate the vaccines, no different than they do others for public health immunizations now that the FDA has approved them. I think DeSantis is making grave errors but elections have consequences.
Although I do try to understand the liberty argument -- during a contagious public health outbreak the will of an individual does not supercede to duty to protect the public health. This may be off topic for the Ivermectin treatment, which I do think it not the best choice.
Look over this link, if you will. Jacobson v Massachusettes 1905
If the USA had acted like they are now in 1905 and later with the polio epidemic we would still be dealing with those diseases today.
We are going to have another spike because of selfish ill informed people and a government conflating politics and liberty with proper response to a contagious outbreak. This MD is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Have her on the air and feel free to let her know that. Do as you will but do no harm? Antivaxxers do harm.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1449224/
There is more.. note some of these links date prior to the COVID outbreak, so there is nothing new under the sun.
"Origins of the anti-vaccination movement
"Fear of vaccines and myths against them are not a new phenomenon. Opposition to vaccines goes as far back as the 18th century when, for example, Reverend Edmund Massey in England called the vaccines “diabolical operations” in his 1772 sermon, “The Dangerous and Sinful Practice of Inoculation” [4]. He decried these vaccines as an attempt to oppose God’s punishments upon man for his sins [5]. Similar religious opposition was seen in the “New World” even earlier, such as in the writings of Reverend John Williams in Massachusetts, who also cited similar reasons for his opposition to vaccines claiming that they were the devil’s work [6]. However, opposition against vaccines was not only manifested in theological arguments; many also objected to them for political and legal reasons. After the passage of laws in Britain in the mid-19th century making it mandatory for parents to vaccinate their children, anti-vaccine activists formed the Anti-Vaccination League in London. The league emphasized that its mission was to protect the liberties of the people which were being “invaded” by Parliament and its compulsory vaccination laws [7]. Eventually, the pressure exerted by the league and its supporters compelled the British Parliament to pass an act in 1898, which removed penalties for not abiding by vaccination laws and allowed parents who did not believe vaccination was beneficial or safe to not have their children vaccinated [8]. Since the rise and spread of the use of vaccines, opposition to vaccines has never completely gone away, vocalized intermittently in different parts of the world due to arguments based in theology, skepticism, and legal obstacles [9]."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6122668/
"Access to medical information online has dramatically changed the dynamics of the healthcare industry and patient-physician interactions. Medical knowledge that was previously bound to textbooks and journals, or held primarily by medical professionals, is now accessible to the layman, which has shifted the power from doctors as exclusive managers of a patient's care to the patients themselves [36]. This has led to the recent establishment of shared decision-making between patients and healthcare physicians [37]. While this is beneficial in some ways, the dissemination of false and misleading information found on the internet can also lead to negative consequences, such as parents not giving consent to having their children vaccinated. When it comes to vaccines, the false information is plentiful and easy to find. "
Commissioner I hope you get someone on the Coffee with Commissioner, now you have opened this can of worms, who has a different opinion of the archaic treatment she is promoting and also that supports immunizations against this contagion.
I hope you get someone who people can't claim, "oh they are political", or "oh they want to make money", or "oh the rapture is occurring and the end times are nigh" or something like that.
Because people are absolutely nuts about their perceived liberty being trampled when required to deal with this pandemic. One can't even talk to them one way or the other.
It's like if you make a law people should drive at night with lights on, or not be drunk as a skunk and drive 100 MPH.. they are like "NO ---FREEDUM--- Liberty!!"
Ask the MD if she had her training from John Hopkins what does she have to say about the panel of MD's that directly say that what she is claiming is in fact NOT RECOGNIZED as a valid treatment? In fact write them and report her if you want to.
Get one of them on the line on ZOOM. There they are in black and white on the John Hopkins link of what they recommend.
This non sense needs to stop.
One more statement from JOHN HOPKINS.. This time about children and COVId vaccines
https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/10-reasons-your-child-should-get-vaccinated-for-covid-19-as-soon-as-possible
It is likely your child will be exposed to COVID-19 at some point if they haven’t been already. COVID-19 vaccines help prevent kids from getting severely sick and from long-term complications or even death."
"Right now, because there is still so much COVID-19 transmission in the U.S., it’s the seventh leading cause of death for children ages 5–11 and even higher than that for kids ages 12–18. COVID-19 infections in children are not nothing; it’s far more dangerous than the flu. "
"Getting kids vaccinated helps protect everyone.
Although there is some evidence that vaccinated people can infect others, this is still rare. People are much more likely to be infected by unvaccinated individuals.
Kids may be exposed to COVID in schools and then accidentally expose their teachers, grandparents, or other high-risk individuals in their lives. The reason so many people are having to get booster shots now is because there are high levels of transmission of COVID still happening in the U.S."
"COVID vaccines are safe.
No vaccine in existence has had any side effects more than two months from the point of vaccination. We are way beyond that now for the majority of people who have been fully vaccinated.
Some parents have cited worries about their child getting myocarditis from the COVID vaccines, but the chances of that happening are much higher if the child gets sick with COVID. Myocarditis remains a very rare side effect and one that can be treated with rest or medication. "
These are STRAIGHT FROM JOHN HOPKINS WHERE THIS MD CLAIMS TO BR TRAINED !!!!
Why on Earth would you give her a platform to spread FALSE Information?
So we can put these links down?
Gigi Gronvall, PhD, is a senior scholar at the Center for Health Security and an associate professor in Environmental Health and Engineering at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.
Published
October 27, 2021
I had an email from Saltzman basically saying FL doesn't want these vaccines. Wrong.
Then thank goodness a court just made another ruling. DeSantis has this wrong and this MD could lose her license for spreading false info about COVID 19 vaccines.
Tell us about Omicron and the way it is 500x more contagious than the Delta Variant.
Listen to this -- Are you able to hear the march of time, the steps of man on the earth -- evolution-- Time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbRt6VIVkpw
Please pay attention Chairman of the Board
https://weartv.com/news/coronavirus/world-on-alert-as-uk-reports-cases-of-omicron-covid-variant
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