Guidelines
Thursday, April 4, 2024
The Roundabout is a Failure.
Saturday, February 10, 2024
Concerns over Perdido Key Roundabout Discussed
The Perdido Key Roundabout is built. It works as designed. I was at Perdido Key yesterday and it was functioning smoothly. Some folks are happy with it, others want additional measures implemented, still others want it scrapped.
One thing I can say with certainty: This traffic feature has been divisive--which is unfortunate. As an example-- I offer this email exchange from this morning....I've had several like it from both supporters of the roundabout and detractors as well.
"Dear Mr. Jeff Bergosh
But my main peace now is the
round about at Johnson Beach rd. It s way too small I do not even think it
complies with US Government recommendations https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/research/safety/00067/000676.pdf
In my opinion it is about 40-60 ft shy in diameter there is not deterrent for south bound travelers to slow done at all they can enter round about at 50 + per hour and not even have to slow down it needs to be enlarged to be safer and I am surprised you have not gotten any law suites from accidents there but I’m sure you will just saying.. because if I get clobbered there I will bring my dash can video to court and will be suing Pensacola and the driver who hit me.. Been 3 close call just this winter alone from people who fail to yield ….
XXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Canada"
To Which I replied:
Hello XXXXXXXX,
District 1 Commissioner
Escambia Board of County Commissioners
Monday, July 24, 2023
Inside the Circle: What Did State Experts Say about a Roundabout at Perdido Key Drive and Johnson's Beach Road?
Ever since we completed the project to construct a roundabout on Perdido Key in District 1 a few months ago--the voices of angst I hear about this project, specifically, generally fall into one of the following three camps:
1. "The roundabout was a terrible idea, it should have never been built and it won't work"---- 49%
2. "I like roundabouts and support the roundabout in Perdido Key"--2% (if you can even find these folks now, post construction)
3. "Yes, I supported the roundabout but this roundabout was built "too small" to work"---49%
Of course, these are rough numbers and anecdotal. And by and large these are not expert opinions.
We have had a number of snafus with this traffic circle which is churning and exacerbating this discontent
So I have been digging and investigating how it came to be that we actually decided to build a roundabout here at this intersection instead of a traffic light or a "no build" option?
When this portion of the county reverted to District 1 in January of 2022, about a year and a half ago, I was told the design was completed, the project was funded (out of D2 discretionary funds) and that the PEOPLE in Perdido Key voted and WANTED the Roundabout.
Being agnostic on traffic circles, I moved forward with the project--with the caveat being I would study the intersection if there were problems and implement new solutions if necessary. That's what I said, and that's what I'll do.
After two weekends of traffic backing up all the way to Sorrento atthe Wal Mart on Blue Angel Pkwy--I directed staff to commission a professional engineering study of this roundabout--with no bias but only "Spock-esque" logical conclusions.
Right now, in the heart of the season, this study is underway. Cameras have been set up in key locations to film this roundabout in action at multiple times during the day. And un-scientific as it is--I have gone through that roundabout from all angles multiple times with no issue. Nevertheless--I want cold hard facts and answers from a professional firm commissioned to provide just such information.
And that is underway and will come back to us in two week's time.
Meanwhile, I'm looking backwards as well--because sometimes one must look backwards to go forward. You see, up until September of 2019 this roadway, Perdido Key Drive, was a state road. Surely FDOT must've studied that intersection (Perdido Key Drive and Johnson's Beach Road) when it was under their jurisdiction----right?? I mean, the commissioner at that time as well as some large developers really, really, really badly wanted a roundabout. Which begs the question: What did state experts say about a roundabout there, at that intersection?
I know what they said.
They specifically recommended against a roundabout at Johnson's Beach Road and Perdido Key Drive in their detailed traffic assessment of that intersection that they performed in September of 2018---a full year before this roadway was swapped for Beulah Road in District 1 in 2019.
See the recommendation in this screen shot from the report, below. (highlighted in yellow)
So I had not seen this report until late last week. Neither did I know if its existence.
But now that I know about it--it does beg several quetions...and I am not putting staff on blast because when this all took place we had a different traffic engineer, a different county engineer, and a different County Administrator. We also had a different commissioner in charge of that part of the county and we know he and others desperately wanted this roundabout there. I wonder if he knew about this report? I wonder if he knew and pressed forward anyway for the roundabout? We may never know the answer to that--and at this point it does not matter. We are in the solutions stage now. And we will get this solved.
But as I look back on the road swap that happened a year later (which I supported for numerous reasons at that time as it represented a good deal for the county and the taxpayers, and I explained why in a blog post at that time)--I cannot help but wonder if the swap was pressed so that this roundabout could be built to mollify some special interests that really, really, really badly wanted a roundabout there--knowing full-well the state would never go along with it if the roadway remained theirs--- as their own report recommended against it?
Could that have been the impetus for the whole thing and for why D2 didn't pull his funding and support for this project even after it reverted back to D1 after the redistricting? Too many questions. I mean, if in 2018 state experts realized the roundabout here wouldn't work---and it has only gotten busier and more densely populated in Perdido since then---surely someone should have realized it wouldn't work with more cars and more people, right?
Remember: This was chiefly funded by D2 discretionary LOST funds. It is part of the reason I went along with it once I assumed responsibility for this part of the county. His money from his district.
But if our new study suggests this is not a proper traffic feature for this location--I WILL PULL IT QUICK and we will constuct what is best for this location, not what a small voice of support or what small voices of support advocated for.
A person very familiar with this whole issue gave a terse, cautionary assessment: "Jeff, always remember it is dangerous to listen to 46 people out of a group of around 74 and assume that number is a majority or a consensus while also disregarding technical advice that goes against what 46 people say they want"
That just about sums it up in a nutshell. Look for much more to come on this topic going forward.....
Sunday, July 9, 2023
Is the Perdido Key Roundabout Helping or HAMPERING the Flow of Traffic there?
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Traffic was backed up from the Wal Mart at Sorrento and Blue Angel all the way to the "Roundabout" at Johnson's Beach Road and Perdido Key Drive on Perdido Key Saturday.... |
Monday, October 31, 2022
Good News Update on the Perdido Key Roundabout Project!
Early last week the latest estimate on the completion of the Perdido Key roundabout project at Perdido Key Drive and Johnson's Beach Road came back as a Spring completion--with final striping and signage completion by May 25th.
Fast forward to this weekend and I am hearing of some remarkable progress by the contractor on this project. Apparently, it looks as if this project may be completed months ahead of schedule---perhaps even by the end of this year. From staff:
"Just received some new info on the roundabout. The contractor is planning to be 100% finished by year end which is quite ambitious but would be fantastic. Also, there will be one additional permanent "mouse compliant" light installed in the general vicinity of the current Johnson's Beach detour, and an existing light right at the roundabout will be converted to amouse compliant fixture. There should be plenty of light at the finished roundabout. Contractor is still working on temporary lighting"
more to come on this.....