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Showing posts with label Traffic Circles. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Traffic Circles. Show all posts

Saturday, February 10, 2024

Concerns over Perdido Key Roundabout Discussed



The Perdido Key Roundabout is built.  It works as designed. I was at Perdido Key yesterday and it was functioning smoothly.  Some folks are happy with it, others want additional measures implemented, still others want it scrapped.

One thing I can say with certainty:  This traffic feature has been divisive--which is unfortunate.  As an example-- I offer this email exchange from this morning....I've had several like it from both supporters of the roundabout and detractors as well.

"Dear Mr. Jeff Bergosh

 I am a Canadian snow bird and been coming to Perdido Key for over 15 years, watching it grow every year along with downtown Pensacola and for the most part very pleased.

But my main peace now is the round about at Johnson Beach rd. It s way too small I do not even think it complies with US Government recommendations https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/publications/research/safety/00067/000676.pdf

In my opinion it is about 40-60 ft shy in diameter there is not deterrent for south bound travelers to slow done at all they can enter round about at 50 + per hour and not even have to slow down it needs to be enlarged to be safer and I am surprised you have not gotten any law suites from accidents there but I’m sure you will just saying.. because if I get clobbered there I will bring my dash can video to court and will be suing Pensacola and the driver who hit me.. Been 3 close call just this winter alone from people who fail to yield ….

XXXXXXXXXXXX    XXXXXXXXXXXXX

Canada"

To Which I replied: 

 

Hello XXXXXXXX,

 Thanks for the email of concern.  I have received several just like this one.  By contrast, I have also received several of late that appreciate the county building the traffic circle.  FULL DISCLOSURE:  I am not a traffic engineer, but I am told by the traffic engineers that the roundabout’s size is sufficient.  I have driven it from every angle and have found it to work adequately.  We have applied a number of additional measures to the roundabout to make it even more effective, safe, and efficient—however no amount of engineering can account for unsafe driving behavior of some who speed through the roundabout, drive over it, and are reckless.  This is why we all must drive defensively.

 A little history for you XXXXXXX…..Upon this area reverting to District 1 in early 2022 after a decennial census dictated we had to rebalance our 5 county voting districts---this project had already been designed and funded and was “shovel-ready.”  In addition to this---the citizens of Perdido Key had been consulted with numerous town hall meetings where they were asked which of three options they preferred on this county owned road.  1.  No build of anything—status quo  2.  A traffic signal  or 3.  A roundabout.  Overwhelmingly—the citizens chose option 3, a roundabout.   I agree with you in that it (roundabout) seems to be off-centered and undersized, but as I stated previously, above, the professional engineers who went to school for this and have studied these sorts of things academically have told me, eye to eye and in my face, that the roundabout was built as designed and is working as it was designed to work; slowing down traffic to prevent high speed wrecks while also allowing for a safer left turn solution from Johnson’s Beach Road going West back toward Alabama. Furthermore—do to a number of environmental constraints we face on Perdido Key and a lack of available right of way to expand the size of the roundabout---I am told by the professionals from the county’s environmental and traffic divisions (copied on this email) that enlarging the circle is impossible.  If I am wrong in this, again—they are copied and I’m asking for them to correct my understanding of this.  

 So let me make this perfectly plain.  If we can enlarge the circle, if this would improve safety, I am committed to doing it.  Enough have requested it of me and I have a budget for it.  Chris Phillips and Tim Day—can we do this?  We are still watching the operation of the roundabout and considering a bypass solution which could de-conflict some of the traffic going into the circle.  When I receive a final determination on whether or not we can do that—I will take decisive action and act on the recommendation.

 In closing, XXXXXXXX, I offer this:  What I have learned in nearly 18 years in local public office is that no solution will please all people.  To quote the famous trope from Goldilocks and the Three Bears—The porridge will never be just right—it is always too hot or cold.   With this said, I am always willing to re-assess a decision in light of new input and data from knowledgeable sources so your comments and considerations below are duly noted.  Thanks for your email, and I hope you enjoy your winter down here in America.

 Sincerely,

 Jeff Bergosh

District 1 Commissioner

Escambia Board of County Commissioners

Monday, September 10, 2018

The Hamlin Road Roundabout Story---According to a Resident

The Roundabout at Hamlin Road at Livernois Road in Rochester Hills, Michigan, has reportedly produced more traffic collisions per year, every year, since its initial construction in 2010--Including 2X the wrecks in 2011 compared to 2010...

I've been lukewarm, at best, to the idea of traffic roundabouts since the moment I got on this board.

I believe that in order to alleviate Pensacola Beach traffic-- we need to hire 2 off-duty officers to direct traffic for the busiest 12-15 days of peak summer gridlock yearly.

This, combined with some additional parking (that the BCC supports), as well as going fully automatic with a reduced-cost fare at the toll booth (phased-in over a two to three-year period) and the addition of some premium, paid parking at the front rows of our lot at Casino Beach--would not only save the county money--it would also reduce traffic congestion getting to the beach!

Opinions on this topic are all over the map--and I have received quite a bit of correspondence....

After the recent SRIA BCC joint meeting, I received even more.

It appeared, after the SRIA meeting, that the whole idea of roundabouts at Pensacola Beach was a dead item.  DOA. Done. Gone.  "Put a fork in it"-- dead.

Most Pensacola Beach residents with whom I have spoken about this topic do not even want the roundabouts anyway.

So at the subsequent meeting we put an "all stop" on the engineering work.

(To finish 100% plans for the roundabouts at the beach would cost an additional $342,000.00 we have expended roughly $900,000.00 thus far to get about 70% completed.)

After we decided to stop the study-- some community leaders asked us to "just go ahead and expend the allocated money to finish the study.....so we will all know the real cost of it"

So last meeting, out of deference to my counterpart in D4, I moved with the board majority, via a  4-1 vote,  to finish the plans so we would know, with certainty, just what it would cost ($10 Million?  $15 Million?--more?)  to fund the roundabouts.  We did this even though we don't have a funding source

Tuesday, July 24, 2018

The Intelligent, Cost-Neutral Way to Decrease Beach Traffic Gridlock

Now that the concept of traffic circles on Pensacola Beach is dead on arrival--are there other revenue-neutral ideas that can be implemented to help address beach gridlock?  Answer:  YES 

It is not about getting more revenue out of the beach as was inaccurately portrayed in the PNJ last week.

It's not about "making people pay" for parking--per se

A plan that I discussed at the joint BCC/SRIA meeting last week and also yesterday on Channel 3 is about trying to take steps to address beach traffic congestion in an intelligent, thoughtful manner.

Now that the $25 Million dollar roundabouts are dead and they are not going to be constructed---we can do nothing about the traffic gridlock out at the beach or we can be proactive and do something that reduces traffic while maintaining our revenue stream.

I’m looking for the way to maintain a revenue-neutral position while helping the congestion that is bottle-necked at the toll-booth.  Whether it is eliminating the toll, or reducing the Sun Pass toll to $.50 cents and keeping one, far right lane a cash lane only (at $1.00) combined with the addition of some paid parking at Casino Beach—there are different levers that can be adjusted up and down, back and forth, to find the sweet-spot from a revenue perspective as it pertains to a toll/parking fee mix.

And my plan is to leave roughly 30-40% of Casino Beach as “free parking” while the front 60-70% pay an hourly, premium market rate.  The other areas of the beach would maintain free-parking status. 

And I would never suggest ugly meters—no way.  There are kiosks that can accept

Thursday, May 24, 2018

Three-Page Response to my Blog Post...

I received a request to post the below response to my blog post on the roundabouts meeting.  The response was too long to be submitted as a comment utilizing the comment feature, so I'm posting it here in its entirety....