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Sunday, December 3, 2023

For Gannett's PNJ---- the Ends Justify the Means


Criminal conduct must not ever be induced, rewarded, or countenanced.  Otherwise it will continue and grow.

It's why when demand for catalytic converters by scrap yards, regardless of the origin of such parts, was remunerative for theives and the scrap metal markets alike--the expensive,exasperating issue of folks having their catalytic converters stolen from their cars swept the nation.  Scrap yards could buy boxes full of these valuable parts from anonymous, shifty, sketchy and unknown individuals, shrug their shoulders and say, "We followed the law--WE didn't steal these."  Then a raft of states dealt with the demand side of that illegal activity/trade  by passing laws that put the onus on the "buyers" of catalytic converters (scrap dealers) to verify the origin of the individual parts prior to buying them.  These laws also made unauthorized possession of such parts illegal.  Now these crimes are on the decline--because the inducement and normalization of the improper, unlawful conduct has been removed, appropriately, by legislators.

Ditto for scrap copper theft around the nation.

This is why it is important to deal in facts and ignore distractions as it pertains to the current issue in Escambia County of what appears to be criminal conduct by those who stole county files and disseminated them unlawfully, continue to possess them unlawfully without authorization, and disseminate them inappropriately. 

Words are important, too.  

These are stolen county records--the sort of records that mere possession of which is a crime. A theft has happened.  It is potentially criminal. PNJ minimizes and attempts to sanitize this by calling this an issue of "Leaked" files.

Worse, Gannett's PNJ condones the theft of these files by continuing to possess and publish stories from them--which will invariably induce and embolden others to inappropriately steal files in the future--  here and elsewhere--from those with whom they disagree politically.

So individual aspects of this whole sordid event must be dealt with separately.

The issue of these stolen files and their continuing, unlawful, unauthorized possession by multiple individuals and Gannett--- in contravention to state law--- is one stand alone issue that is being investigated , a court action has been filed, and soon this matter will be litigated.

A separate issue is Florida's Public Records law and how it meshes here with files that have been stolen from the county's computers while such files were in the care and custody of the county--creating a condition where multiple individuals and entities now have possession, apparently, of a complete file the majority of the contents of which are actually private and not public records. Much of  this file contains privileged, confidential, Personal Identification Information, and individual personal medical records on more than a dozen local citizens that would never be released under any public records request anywhere in Florida ever.  Gannett knows this.

1. Stolen records

2. Public Records Law

Two separate issues.  And again-- Gannett's PNJ know that.  They are also aware of the fact that in 18

years in public office I have never failed to deliver a requested public record.  I've also never had an ethics complaint or a lawsuit because I follow the rules and the law.  In short, they know  I would have provided any record they requested as I have in the past had they simply asked me for them. They never asked.  Instead--They short-circuited the process in order to attack me by soliciting and acquiring these stolen files from someone else (an"anonymous" source) unredacted.  Astonishingly, prior to publication of their first piece on these stolen files, they actually attempted a feckless "validation" of the stolen data by relying on "confirmation" that the data was identical to what former employee Jonathan Owens also possessed.  Nope, Gannett never asked the county or I for the records, they instead relied on a former employee who is now wrapped up in a lawsuit, potential crimainal investigation, and an ethics complaint over his continuing, unlawful possession of these very same stolen county files he unlawfully read, possessed, kept after his employment with the county ended and has subsequently disseminated to others unredacted.

So it appears that Gannett and some other parties are deliberately conflating these two separate and distinct issues, above, for expediency and to shield  their own individual/institutional culpability in the violation of Florida Statutes 817.5685 via their continuing unlawful possession of this county property that was stolen.  

Some inaccurately, ignorantly claim that the files in question are "ALL Automatically" public records due to their original physical location being on county computers in the county's IT department or on county property geographically after they were downloaded and copied.  But this assumption is badly flawed and has already been decided in a precedent-setting Florida case which determined that the content of a record, based upon such a record's individual contents-- not the physical location of such a record's storage---is what determines whether or not each such record is indeed a public record or a private record.

Gannett and PNJ paint the issue as a freedom of the press, free speech, and public records matter--and gloss over the theft of records. 

And this time, disgustingly, the PNJ's method in demonstrating this is to wrongly and inaccurately create and fabricate an entire article from whole cloth where they published personal conversations between me and my wife (gleaned from the stolen files)  on their front page in an effort to damage us both-proudly exclaiming that the exchange was a "public record."  

They were wrong, though.  It wasn't a public record.

Gannett's PNJ knew or should have known that these conversations between me and my wife did not and do not constitute Florida public records--even if conversations touch on county matters---because case law and precedent was recently set in a directly on-point South Florida case. So once we begin discovery and depositions I am certain questions about this will be asked while Gannett and PNJ staff are under oath.  I'm certain the emails and texts from their side on this matter will also be subpoened for the case/trial.  I believe they've once again done this purposely, to place me in a false light with actual

malice to inflict damage.  It won't work.  We'll find out. (The've done this purposely to me---over and over in the past--and I have carefully documented these previous instances each time, one by one).

Hiding behind their self-proclaimed titles of "government watchdog" will not save them here in my estimation--because what they have done and what they are doing here is wrong.  They have rewarded bad behavior (the theft of records) for the sake of damaging a public official with whom they have disagreed for going on two decades. They continue to possess stolen property and disseminate it. Moreover, they have been told the copy they possess has been manipulated.  The hash signature does not match--the source file according to law enforcement sources---indicating the file has been changed.  No matter, they publish anyway.  

For Gannett's PNJ--apparently-- the Ends Justify the Means.

But do they?  

It's WAY past time for New York Times v. Sullivan to be seriously challenged and overturned.

Otherwise unscrupulous, muckraking outfits like Gannett's PNJ will continue to "buy" the stolen "cayalytic converters" from unseemely characters, the "sellers" and the "buyers" in such transactions will win----------------  and America, media targets, and the TRUTH will lose.


17 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thou dost protest too much.

Jeff Bergosh said...

2:36--No--not enough, actually.

Mel Pino said...

Nope. Just because you got burned, that's no reason to overturn our free speech in this country. And the whole reason Andrade got told to pull the legislation they cooked up for him to take down NYT vs Sullivan? Because his handlers realized that the hard right shock jocks in Florida would be absolute toast with what he was told to push through. (Took the brain trust long enough to figure that out.)

If I were a journalist, I would feel free to publish anything, period, that was public record from the dump of documents they got--which wasn't just text messages of yours, but what they said was a larger dump of documents that they then clarified as other commissioner communication.

Why is it a hatchet piece to print any public record? I honestly don't get it.

When they started off by splashing your conversations with your wife on the front page? That was super distasteful, even if technically it was still public record, because it was about County business. I agree it was really low, and unnecessary, and I was disgusted with Jim Little for doing it.

You and David bear texting about redistricting?--for the life of me, I cannot understand why you keep going on about them printing it.

Of *course* they printed it. It's County business, it's news, and people would be interested in it. If they were printing stuff that wasn't County business? I'd be hiring my own attorney to get a restraining order on that fast. But you're not going to be able to keep them from printing anything that's public record, so I'm not sure why you keep haranguing on it. The press does have the right to print public record, however they come about it. And they even have latitude in some cases with stuff of questionable provenance.

But bitching about them posting public record regardless what the source was? It's either authentic public record or it's not. If it's not, why worry about it?--the authorities will know that. If it is, there's no harm or fowl on the public stuff--so again, why worry about it.

I'm trying to figure out what the through line is on what everybody is supposed to be outraged about, and for me, anyway, it doesn't include the News Journal publishing those text messages. It *does* include them receiving documents of questionable provenance, some of which were *not* public record, and not turning them into the proper authorities. (Why on earth they would have turned them over to the County, as you suggested in another post, I have no idea. The County would have been the last place I'm doing business with on something like that. If I were the PNJ, they would have gone to the police and or the SAO, delivered by attorneys.)

Of all the people to be outraged at, the press is hardly the worst offender. I'm outraged at the County employees who set this up, everybody in the chain of custody with those text messages landing in Jonathan's lap (and that could just mean the D2 office using their back doors to scoop them off the server), and every person who saw, possessed, and/or disseminated the private property.

Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled Gannett is on the suit, because there are of course limitations to what the press can do with stolen property. And if it's ruled that they didn't have the right to disseminate it, that will make for some interesting depositions. But Gannett/PNJ/Jim Little is the least of the problem in this scenario, and they violated nothing if the text messages they printed are indeed authentic public record. So I honestly don't get what all the hubbub is on the article they printed. The real question is what they have that they shouldn't, and who gave it to them.

Jeff Bergosh said...

Melissa--You and I will agree to disagree here. My conversations with my wife are not a public record, period. Settled case law on that in Florida has happened. Read it, it is linked to this post. Getting "Burned" is not what I got. The county was hacked and property was stolen. Like many, you appear unable or unwilling to disaggregate between the two issues. Stolen property is one. Public records is another. The way to get public records is to request them. I always fulfill the requests, always have and always will. The way to not get public records is to steal large files from county computers and then subsequently disseminate unredacted records that are not public records--that's why it is illegal. We should never reward illegal behavior. And yes, Times v. Sullivan needs to go. I am all for free speech, always have been---but the media use that decision to justify conduct that is reprehensible. Again, we can agree to disagree. Get back to me if your information is hacked and your personal photograhs are circulated widely. If that happens to you, I would not characterize it as you getting "burned."

Mel Pino said...

Commissioner Bergosh, with all due respect, you're the one wildly conflating public record with private property and spinning out arguments from that conflation that make absolutely no logical sense. I can't imagine there's a single person reading these blogs who can follow your line of reasoning. If there is a lawyer, judge, or other officer of the law or court that agrees with you in writing here and puts their name to it--okay, then I'm sorry there's clearly something I'm not getting. Otherwise, this just looks to me like an outsized temper tantrum that needs to be over now.

I don't blame you for being emotional that you got hacked--and even worse, that County staff was behind it. Just because I'm not surprised on that note, and frustrated that you would do something so silly as hand your phone to an IT department, it doesn't mean I don't have empathy for what happened. It's horrible, and I want every single person who committed an actual crime to be held accountable.

But you spinning out of control on this because you're frustrated and angry doesn't help your cause; you're actually making the PNJ look good in comparison, as you're just throwing anything you can think of against the wall. NYT vs Sullivan is primarily about libel. Nobody libeled you in the PNJ piece...nothing in that article even came close (not so always with PNJ reporters--when Andy Marlette claimed the BCC committed sunshine violations in censuring Doug, I could not understand why the Board didn't slap him with a lawsuit so quick his head was spinning).

You should really stop letting your emotions on this get the best of you, because when you're conflating all this stuff in your head, it ends up sounding like you don't think the PNJ had the right to publish public record. Which is pretty ludicrous, if you'd slow down and think about it.

Maybe I haven't been understanding what the suit is about, and that's possible. I thought that the suit was about the private and sensitive information. But if you think the results of this suit is that you're going to be able to get a court to TRO public record? Well maybe, I guess, for a temporary period while it sorts out what's what. But there's nothing that's public record that isn't the press's right to print, period, end of story--with the exception of sensitive information as identified in Florida state statute. There was nothing sensitive in those text messages. So PNJ will win that aspect of the case eventually, I'm assuming, if the County is arguing that they don't have a right to print public record if they stand by its authenticity, and they prove such in court.

So yes, we'll have to agree to disagree on how you're handling all of this, because I certainly would like to see you approaching this from a greater place of equilibrium. But as far as the legality goes--that's hardly an "agree to disagree." Until an officer of the court I respect tells me I'm dead wrong about the law, the press's right to publish any public record in the state of Florida is more in the no brainer category from where I sit. I'd have to go back and look at the legality about your texts with your wife--is there a spousal exemption? But your texts with Mr. Bear are free game, and so is anything else on those files that the PNJ believes they can prove is authentic. And if they're not? Katy bar the door...they should be sued to not only smithereens but oblivion, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Just as they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for not turning over private stolen messages and sensitive info.

Anonymous said...

Funny how the”number 1” radio show couldn’t even broadcast for a week or so 😂😂

Eric Sharplin said...

Jeff Bergosh has every right to be an angry and upset. Tom Jardine constantly attacking him is not helping. You have a lot of nerve to call Jeff Bergosh a lil brat or saying this is outsized temper tantrum. Dont bite the hand that feeds you Jeff has been good to you he put on the MAC committee and this is the kinda thanks he is getting. If your his friend starting acting like one he dont need all these attacks. I stand up for Jeff Bergosh he is a friend mine he does he job well. He has not done anything wrong.

Anonymous said...

I can certainly understand why you would be upset about anything being published that you believe was stolen, and I’m not knowledgeable enough to have an opinion about the legality or what should happen with any of that.

The question I can’t believe you haven’t yet been asked is why are you communicating with a private citizen about redistricting in the first place?

Is he a concerned citizen? If so, there’s probably at least a few hundred of those in the county, and probably quite a few that even live in your district. Can the rest of us who are concerned start texting you also?

Is he an influential donor? If he is, how does one become a large enough donor to get a commissioner’s attention?

Is he a successful businessman with a vested interest in the growth of our area? Again, plenty of those around here. Can you also text them and see what they think about potential decisions affecting the County?

Although I truly agree that publishing anything stolen isn’t right, until we stop seeing exchanges like this, we will continue to believe that elected officials are controlled by the desires of a very few and that none of the true public opinion really matters at all.

Anonymous said...

Sounds pretty serious -- hacking a government computer. Then bragging about it and publishing it. What a bunch of morons.

Thanks for the links.

People are ignorant of public record law.

Obviously.

Tom Jardine said...

I would like to see Jeff overcome some of his petty, vindictive tendencies. Jeff is well-paid by the citizens of Escambia County to provide professional representation. Clearly the citizens have not been Jeff’s priority.

It has already been established that Jeff has mismanaged the citizens’ public records.

Jeff has been concealing his communications regarding public business from the citizens who Jeff is paid handsomely to represent. Further, Jeff has demonstrated no remorse. My understanding is that Jeff CONTINUES to conceal his PUBLIC activities.

Thank goodness that some of those nefarious communications have been released by the media into the Sunshine.

I’m disappointed with both Jeff and with David Bear. The two have evidently been plotting in the shade. It’s apparent from the texts that they have callously manipulated the redistricting process largely for the purpose of vexing a former political rival.

The two seemed to disregard the impact that their back room machinations might have on the great citizens of Escambia County. Certainly, Bergosh and Bear have demonstrated an absolute disregard for ECUA board member Lois Benson.

As public officials, the policy actions taken by both Bergosh and Bear impact the citizens’ lives. I’m genuinely troubled by the text messages that have been revealed.

And I believe that this public information would have never been revealed if someone had not discovered this plot and released the information to the citizens.

I’ll allow the courts to decide whether or not any wrongdoing has occurred. Regardless of those findings; I’m personally grateful that some courageous individual took action. I’m not wealthy like Jeff and David, but I’m ready to contribute to the defense of the whistleblower.

I call for Commissioner Bergosh to strive to overcome his character flaws and to, henceforth, make the great citizens of Escambia County his priority.

And I call for Commissioner Bergosh to immediately turn over all of the citizens’ public records that he is currently hoarding. Properly turn the citizens’ public records over to the Escambia County Clerk as you have been repeatedly instructed to do, Jeff.

The citizens have not yet completely given up on you, Jeff Straighten up and fly right!

Anonymous said...

Your analogy does not work, because catalytic converters and copper wire are not public records.

Anonymous said...

Yup

Anonymous said...

Prolly bc there’s some real juicy stuff he doesn’t wanna get out. Maybe even about campaign donors or staff. Who knows but the puffed stance is sus and has the opposite effect. Cannot wait for the next text dump article in this saga. Rarely do the citizens get the unadulterated glimpse into the comms of a Comm.

Tom Jardine said...

It has already been established that Jeff has mismanaged the citizens’ public records.

Jeff has been concealing his communications involving public business from the citizens who Jeff is paid to represent.

Further, Jeff has demonstrated no remorse. Jeff continues to conceal his public activities by hoarding his communications on his personal phone.

Thank goodness that some of Jeff’s nefarious communications have been released by the media into the Sunshine

I’m disappointed with both Jeff and David Bear. Those two have evidently been plotting in the Shade.

It is apparent from the text messages which were released by the PNJ that Bergosh and Bear callously manipulated the Escambia County redistricting process largely for the purpose of vexing a former political rival.

The two seemed to disregard the impact that their back room machinations might have on the great citizens of Escambia County. Certainly, Bergosh and Bear have demonstrated an absolute disregard for ECUA board member, Lois Benson.

As public officials, the policy actions taken by both Bergosh and Bear impact citizens’ lives. I’m justifiably troubled by the text messages that have been revealed.

And I believe that this public information would have never been revealed if someone had not discovered this plot and released the information to the citizens.

I’ll allow the courts to decide whether or not wrongdoing has occurred. Regardless of those findings, I’m personally grateful that some courageous individual(s) took action.

I’m not wealthy like Bergosh and Bear, but I’m willing to contribute to the legal bills of the whistleblower.

I call for Commissioner Bergosh to overcome his character flaws and to, henceforth, make the great citizens of Escambia County his priority.

And I call for Commissioner Bergosh to turn over all of the citizens’ public records that he is currently hoarding.

Properly turn over to the Clerk all of the public records as you have been repeatedly instructed, Jeff.

The citizens have not yet completely given up on you, Jeff.

Anonymous said...

Jeff Bergosh is the most narcissistic and toxic drama queen i have ever seen. Read his own words...he lays it out for everyone. He is always in some heated exchange, everyone else is vile, everyone is always attacking him, and he's always a noble victim in some salicious attack. Always insuating he's on the moral high ground while everyone else is either inept, dillusional, or morally bankrupt.

This dude litterally appears to be thumbing his nose at the general public regarding the sunshine law. Jeff you may be right, you may have paid some high powered law firm for an opinion on what you can or can't do....the mere fact you posted it in such a braggadocious way indicates to me you knew the spirit of the law and tried to circumvent it. Whether you actually broke the law doesn't negate the fact you understood the law and then appeared to circumvent it if the texts are legit. You care to address the context of those texts? Are they legit or fabricated?

Voters, please read this clown's blogs. Just read various blogs of his own words...he is an arrogant pugilistic middle schooler at best. This guy is not a professional and doesn't conduct himself like a professional. D1 deserves better, remember that the next election.

Jeff Bergosh said...

3:37--Your comment is ridiculous. Self-defense from unfounded, baseless allegations coordinated as an intentional hit-job is not being narcissistic nor is it being a "Drama Queen" (your words) No. But when doing this job, the attacks come from far and wide and they are generally ad hominems coming from folks who couldn't win an election, or who's chosen candidate I smashed in an election. That's typically where they come from. Or they are glib and attempt to pile-on over issues raised by those I just described. Regardless, here's what is important for you to understand: This job isn't even a UFC cage fight. It is a street fight, bare knuckles complete with sucker punches (Like Thursday night's spectacle) and groin kicks. It ain't for the faint of heart. So don't be a pearl clutching pollyana or a simpleton. I follow all the rules, I have nothing to hide, and there is no "there" there in the tripe published by the PNJ. I fully understand the SAO has to look into this now that Kohler weighed in along with 5-6 long term Bergosh haters from one facebook hate chamber site that idolizes disgraced former commissioner Dough Underhill. I get that. But understand this: Myself and the county attorney initiated the investigation, and the county and I BOTH signed waivers allowing LAW ENFORCEMENT to analyze all data in my iphone file and the duplicate file on the county servers. I know there is no wrongdoing in those files and that's why I signed the release back on June 14th. Think on that. Now, get back to your buddies on ECW, as I continue to slowly walk down the mountain down to the pasture. February 5th and depositions are coming. Don't lie to the FBI!

Anonymous said...

Street fight….. hahaha ok Jean Claude. Keep going…. please! You are your own worst enemy and don’t even realize it. But keep talking and posting like a middle school adolescent. I love it.

So there’s no “there” there? So are you saying the text messages as printed by pnj are 100% false/fabricated? Just want to clarify.