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Thursday, June 13, 2019

Citizens are Saying NO to Paying Commissioner Legal Bills

With respect to taxpayers funding legal defense for a commissioner's impending lawsuit, citizens are saying "talk to the hand" about that plan.... 

My email box is blowing up with angry citizen and constituent emails demanding that the BCC NOT pay legal bills for the D2 commissioner who is apparently once again being sued for libel-- according to the PNJ and Rick's Blog.

Of course the decision on whether or not to pay for a defense will be a full-board decision based upon all factors including relevant state statutes, county policy, and our county attorney's opinion.  Meanwhile, folks are saying "no way."





                                                                               From the email (s)

Citizens are emailing and saying "no way"
to taxpayer funded legal expenses for
a commissioner being sued for libel...
"I write with a request that the Board as a whole vote to deny the County taking on liability for Commissioner Underhills impending libel lawsuit initiated by citizen Scott Miller. The activity that initiated Mr. Millers lawsuit was that of Dougs comment on social media site Escambia Citizens Watch, not in the performance of his official duties as Commissioner. May I remind you of the COW meeting May 9th, where the social media policy was discussed between 4 of you in determining whether to bring it to the agenda for the next BCC meeting. Commissioner Bender stated it eloquently when he said “Not trying to take away your First Amendment rights, Jeff, but I’m not going to defend it either. It was also at this point that Doug left the dais, indicating he took no position on that part of the discussion. Commissioner Barrys comment about the use of technology not having impact on the board while the “use of Social Media and tenor of the comments, does have an effect on me.” is a perfect example of how Doug got into his predicament to begin with. 

His comments on that site, which by the way is NOT open to General Public viewing, are what the basis of his new lawsuit are based on. Therefore the County, us Taxpayers, should not be on the hook for his legal expenses associated with this case. He got himself into it, he can get himself out. I would predict that Dougs activities on Social Media will continue to be problematic for the Board as he continues to disparage those that don’t agree with his agenda with disparaging and libelous remarks."

From another citizen:

"Good evening Commissioners.
I am asking Commissioners Jeff Bergosh, Lumon May, Robert Bender, and Steven Barry to deny any request from Commissioner Doug Underhill for legal fees to be paid with our tax dollars.

Commissioner Douglas Underhill is a grown man fully capable of taking care of his own legal fees and he can say or write anything he wants however, it is his moral and financial responsibility when our citizens decide to hold him accountable for slanderous and/or libelous statements (written or verbal).

One could even argue that Jacqueline Aimee Rogers and her Escambia Citizens Watch Group (ECW) could have some culpability for allowing Douglas Underhill to continually violate the groups rules without removing Douglas Underhill’s membership privileges?

Commissioner Doug Underhill was clearly speaking for himself from his personal Facebook account on ECW (NOT GOVERNMENT BUSINESS) and he Clearly has publicly made a case that his personal Facebook account is not governed by the county board of commissioners policies!

Please commissioners, do not even entertain the idea of paying for Commissioner Douglas Underhill’s legal fees or put it on the agenda review or commission meeting for a vote. No need to even discuss it at the commission meetings or agenda review, ever, this is a private sector civil case having nothing to do with our county government.

I’m sure there will be many more slander/libel lawsuits to come for Mr. Douglas Underhill, we the taxpayers do not want to pay our hard earned money for Douglas Underhill “running his suck”, as Douglas says to others.
Commissioner Doug Underhill also says publicly that our county wastes too much tax dollars on frivolous expenditures and I would consider Douglas Underhill’s (slander/libel) defense legal fees a frivolous expenditures to the ninth degree!"


...and another...


"Gentleman,

We are not in favor of spending taxpayer money for defense of Libel/ Slander lawsuit for Douglas Underhill. We feel comments made on Social media should not be considered a board action but the person who made them should be held responsible.

I have not been a fan of the uncivil attitude brought in by this member of the board and frankly this one latest suit could be considered the tip of the iceberg if a class action began. Just say NO."

...and another...

"Dear all, 


This is precisely the reason that I have urged the BOCC to censure Commissioner Underhill throughout the course of the last year. His conduct--an acknowledged problem that has been publicly discussed on the dais--is a great liability to his peers, administration, staff, and the taxpayers of this County.

I'm sure it is not lost on many that in Commissioner Underhill's comments about Rolling Hills, he doesn't just aim his accusations at Mr. Miller, but also accuses past Administrator Larry Newsom of conspiring with Mr. Miller to defraud citizens and benefit financially.

If the County defends this lawsuit, isn't it tantamount to saying that the taxpayers should fund officials who libel the County administration?"

...and another...

"Gentlemen, 
As an involved citizen that has asked you all to take action regarding Commissioner Underhill's past actions I come to you now and ask that you give serious thought as to the responsibility of the citizens to pay for any legal defense of a narcissistic motor mouth that seems unable to haved a rational conversation with ANYONE who dis agrees with him.
You haved seen his words, captured in print, accusing both Miller and Newsome of "illegal and racially discriminatory" activities. He did this from his personal FB page while blocking many of his constituents from seeing and/or responding in violation of County policy AND State of Florida law. He posted FROM his personal FB page to a private FB page that purports to be representative of the citizen's however 100's have been blocked from participating on this forum.

I cannot see how we, the citizens should suffer the the cost of his irresponsible actions.

Please deny ANY TAX PAYER MONEY for this purpose."

...and another...

"I wrote a letter last night urging you to NOT pay personal liability suit to Underhill and  we stand by that. His behavior is an ongoing problem, so do not encourage his incivility please. These comments were made on facebook under a discussion about ST and as usual Underhill just resorts to name calling.

I am aware of problems with Rolling Hills and problems should be addressed in meetings with staff and county admin and legal in a civil setting, not on facebook during a discussion about ST. aerospace. You can search ECW and find it, they are also engaged with Florida West president. It's a typical Underhill Post. I watch them in horror and disgust on a regular basis.

It absurd for him to say he was asking the hard questions."


12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well now you are on the subject.. what do you all think of Underhill passing emails to admins/owner of ECW when she was involved in lawsuits with the county? Sector Plan ? Conflict of interest? NIMBY?.. hello? How about involvement to keep that Beach we bought with taxpayer money? How is he even still on the board?

He isn't fooling everyone. The BOA on beach front --- the posts today that Perdido is not engineered. Yes it is. Look into the inlet management plan. You gave him 20k for his personal slush fund there..didn't ya..also gave him 50 k when he asked for a change order on the living shore line..Memba? Why did you all let him take That $$..right out in the sunshine?? Laughing at you?
Open our beach. Don't pay for him to be a jerk, especially when he uses you all too. Pay Attention.

Anonymous said...

Actually Commissioner, you SHOULD pay his fees. We already know what will happen if you don't. He'll go out and raise a ton of money from real estate guys for his "legal defense fund," and a year later, previously protected land on Perdido Key will have condos on it.

If you're not going to crack down on his influence peddling, you might as well let tax-payers participate in the bid for his vote.

Anonymous said...

Notice Underhill is not using his personal f/b profile on Escambia Citizen Watch but is suddenly now using his Red Shirt Commissioner account on the ECW page? LOL.

Anonymous said...

Don't put a penny toward citizens Dougie Poo libel/slander lawsuit, if the county does decide to defend this there is a horde of citizen's waiting for the precedent.

There is a multitude, legion that he has publicly, in writing, done the same to.

Or if you do decide to--then you may be ready to empty the county's coffers and allow his reign of terror.

Because many have a list--complete with screen shots.

He is now commenting, not as citizen Douglas on ECW but using his official title, do not be fooled by that.


Anonymous said...

People need to go to the county web site, pull of the video on ECTV and at least watch the first several minutes of the public forum portion of the special meeting for June 17, 2019. Powerful.

Too bad bias PNJ nor ECW won't cover this. It may help people understand a few things.

Underhill had not even been served but it is apparent the public is fed up with the abuses.

Anonymous said...

He is already back on face book calling people stark raving lunatics.

Anonymous said...

I think Underhill is mad because yesterday he wanted to try to make the four of you look bad and him the hero because of the way some money is left on projects but he could not say much because suddenly he may need your vote to pay for his abusive mouth. He was served during that meeting.
Today there is a PNJ article about a citizen committee and he is also mad because things didn't go his way. He is calling people immoral and lunatic again. He can't even go 24 hours.
His behavior keeps people from discussing things. I will not be any where near him.
I was new and tried to get into discussions and he called me names and scorned me in a public forum and I wasn't even talking to him. To put it mildly, I can't stand him. He is a dangerous person and should be in jail.

At least don't pay for this lawsuit.

It is a shame that Barry still seems to want a non adversarial approach and he may thinks this guy can correct himself.

He has a mental condition and it is apparent.

Anonymous said...

He is trying to blame this and play victim that it is costing him because he is bucking the system. Does he believe his own lies? No the problem and responsibility is on him and him alone.

Anonymous said...

He just asked someone if they were either a liar or a fool on Facebook, ECW. Don't think people aren't watching.

Anonymous said...

it was deleted but screen shot

Anonymous said...

I just ask you to vote no on this funding for Underhill's legal fees

Anonymous said...

The Underhill Morgan alliance is not boding well. Who knew Morgan had so many lawsuits to defend. Was the money budgeted to the sheriff department to fund legal defenses for their own shortcomings as leaders rather to really address deputy pay.

Note who covered for them and even spoke at public hearing to raise the millage 2017.

I think it's time corrupt officials pay for their own legal defense. They didn't even want to comport the LETF to statute without your leadership Commissioner Bergosh.