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I am one member of a five person board. The opinions I express on this forum are mine only, and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the Escambia County Staff, Administrators, Employees, or anyone else associated with Escambia County Florida. I am interested in establishing this blog as a means of additional transparency to the public, outreach to the community, and information dissemination to all who choose to look. Feedback is welcome, but because public participation is equally encouraged, appropriate language and decorum is mandatory. Although this is not my campaign site for re-election--sometimes campaign related information will be discussed, therefore in an abundance of caution I add the following :
Thursday, October 10, 2019
Buyer Beware: The Pitfalls of "Private" Infrastructure....
We no longer allow subdivisions to construct private sewage lift stations. That practice has ended and in the fallout of this previously allowed practice, many unsuspecting homeowners have had to pay to upgrade these systems when they fail--and unbeknownst to most of these folks, the county's sewer utility provider ECUA would not accept or take ownership of these systems unless and until they were repaired and brought up to "current standards."
So several subdivisions have had to pay big money ($550,000.00-700,000.00) just for the "privilege" of fixing these lift stations and giving these systems back to ECUA, the utility that should have owned these systems in the first place. We have Deerfield Estates, Creekwood, and Creekwood Oaks that have finished this process.
Twin Spires and Huntington Creek are still grappling with how to solve their collective issue with their private lift station...in that particular instance, there are lawsuits going and some homeowners are trying to figure out how to get that lift station turned over to ECUA while another faction just wants to be out from under the lift station all together. In that case the lift station has been repaired and is operating at the moment--but some residents want the peace of mind of having that equipment owned by the utility provider, ECUA-without ongoing maintenance and/or repair costs hanging over their collective heads. They want this even if they have to pay a lot to get it up to current standards--and that will be a high-dollar fix.
So as we in the county contend with the last of the private sewer lift station issues, the next big issues for residents could be other private infrastructure that is still allowed to be constructed by developers and turned over to the HOA of a development after a 2-year period. These other features include stormwater retention ponds and roads and sidewalks.
We have had major issues with retention ponds in Beulah. Navy Oaks has a major issue brewing, Woodlyn Meadows has had major problems with one of their ponds, and of course there were multiple ponds at Deer Run that had to be rehabilitated.
I'm told another large, well-established D1 subdivision recently had to assess their residents around $800,000.00 in additional home owner fees to repair some storm ponds for which they had not set aside sufficient funds.
So it is imperative that when buyers purchase homes they ask a lot of questions about these particular items...to save MAJOR heartache in the future. Then decide--are you willing to accept this risk/responsibility? Over the last several years the county has worked with our real estate community and title companies to insure that disclosures are accurate and list all of this for the purchaser.
But at the closing table lots of documents are passed and signed in the excitement of the moment.
How many of us actually read all the fine print? (I know I never have in the past...But I will from now on!!)
Because of all I have seen in cleaning up or being a part of cleaning up some of these problems, I suggest that buyers ask questions and verify answers before they consummate any real estate purchase..and I'd start with these:
1. Who owns the stormwater retention ponds, who maintains them?
2. Are the streets, sidewalks, and storm-water facilities public, or private?
3. Is this home connected to ECUA's sewer?
4. Does this home have grinder pumps (which burn our and must be replaced every 7-10 years at $6k a shot)?
Of course there are dozens of other, additional questions that should be asked by purchasers as well.
But based ONLY on what I have seen and learned in dealing with these issues as a county commissioner for just three years--I'd say ask about everything, and get answers to everything, before you sign on the dotted line...
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6 comments:
Thank you for this warning, Commissioner Bergosh. Home buyers should be especially careful here and this is a good start on what to ask.
I was not aware that these even were a thing until the news of the recent issues. Thanks for bringing this to our attention and good advice on what to ask. Is there any list of the subdivisions with private infrastructure available thru the County website? Maybe something like that would be beneficial to prospective homebuyers.
Michael p McCormack
Jeff. We are getting resolution to the retention pond issue at navy oaks. Work is currently underway and should be completed by nov. 5th. Contact me for an update. Jan Kutsch
Commissioner Bergosh,
My name is Chelsea Walker. I am serving as the current HOA President in Navy Oaks subdivision. My secretary, Jan Kutsch, has so graciously given her time and has made contact with someone ar the state level regarding the incorrect engineering of the "pond" that is in the subdivision.
I'm curious to know what issues you forsee us having and how you will help us remediate these issues in the future. As it stands now, the "pond" on property was constructed to be a "detention pond" (this information was found out when a large sign was found outside the property showing it as a detention pond versus retention pond). Again, Jan has been working with the state to get this remediated but what other issues do you see us having?
Thanks!
Hey Jan Kutsch--glad to hear the repairs are being made. Chelsea Walker, I suggest you speak with Jan about this issue-she is very well versed in what has happened and what is going on. Fortunately, it sounds as if she has a fix in the works. And you all don't have to worry about the lift station issue, as the county no longer permits private sewer lift stations in subdivisions. If you have any questions at all please feel free to call or email me. district1@myescambia.com or 850-595-4910.
With all this trouble, I have to wonder what agency is supposed to ensure that the ponds in these subdivisions are designed, built and maintained as they should be. I have never lived anywhere with such widespread pond failures. Something is broken in the local development system. Warning potential buyers in closing documents will not be enough. Too many buyers are buying their first home and overwhelmed with all the unfamiliar terminology, the procedures and documents involved in buying a home. They will not figure it out until it is too late.
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