Crews with the county's parks and recreation department have commenced the project to add additional parking spots to Beach Access #2 and to pave the parking lot and add outdoor showers and portable restrooms. These changes will be completed before the start of the busy Summer season, and the demolition and renovation of Access #3 will ocur next winter ahead of the 2025 Summer season.
See the pictures of the renovation of Access # 2 in progress, below.
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Is demolishing permanent restrooms and replacing them with portable ones really the best solution?
11:23--------Yes
Totally. We should do this at libraries, schools and county offices too. It’s not that crazy, it’d be kinda like the old outhouses. I mean, why should we waste tax dollars cleaning and maintaining any bathrooms?
1:44--your analogy is not on-point. The fixed restrooms in remote, non-staffed outdoor areas became vandalixm magnets costing taxpayers tens of thousands in repair costs. These remote locations require portable restrooms, just like the beach parking lots at Pensacola Beach that are not staffed. This alleviates the issues associtated with vandalasim--which have been legion at Access 2 and 3 in Perdido Key. We will have a new model of beach accesses, like we've done at #4. Extra parking, outdoor showers, and portable restrooms with more frequent service, with decorative, framed enclosures. This will cost taxpayers much less and provide a cleaner facility overall with more parking.
Hi Jeff. Please quit saying doing this is providing more parking. It's what, three extra spaces? It's "technically" true, but it feels like gaslighting to use it as a justification of crappifying the key. I just don't understand why surveillance wouldn't help curb vandalism. There's a sheriff's outpost nearby on GBH, a simple Ring Cam could alert law enforcement if there's movement to be watched during late-night hours. Just the threat of surveillance usually means people act less recklessly. It's embarrassing that Gulf Shores and OB continue to build such wonderful amenities for their residents and OOT guests to use, while Escambia County residents and guests now have to poop in a bucket while we are at the beach, 3specially given how much money PK contributes to the county coffers. Appreciate the paving, though. But this, in total, is NOT an improvement.
3:08--I will agree to disagree with you Doug. And no--I won't be the guy who puts surveillance cameras on the restrooms--that is creepy. This is an improvement, just like Access 4 is a huge improvement, just like the new mile of citizen access beach is an improvement. Lots of improvements now that the district lines changed and things are getting done. More to come, too.
I am not Doug. And of course I'm not talking about putting cameras in the bathrooms, just somewhere at the access point. I think there should be cameras there anyway, to deter auto break-ins, beach theft, and to keep people from parking on the dunes like they often do at Beach Access 3. If someone pulls in and parks at BA 2, 3 or 4 at 2 am, it stands to reason they might be up to no good- what's to stop them from vandalizing even a portable toilet? So having a way to keep any eye on that isn't nonsensical. Cameras could also serve to check beach conditions for Escambia County residents before they make beach plans for the day. Regardless, I stand by my opinion that, overall, this isn't an improvement. I am yet to find a beach-going person who isn't a politician or county employee with $$$ in mind that feels the way you do. Except for, like I said, the paving. That's gotta be better than driving on rocks.
"Poop in a bucket" sure rings of him, doesn't it? Like his charming favorite "piss in boots." It's his cadence and scatological bent, which he uses in front of any and every audience because he mistakenly thinks it shows he's the stuff of Chiefs (except he wasn't). It's really just another marker of his perverse inclinations and obsessions.
This post is why I got involved so heavily in local politics, and why even though there are so many things we adamantly disagree on, Commissioner Bergosh, we've always put our policy disagreements aside to focus on the things we do agree on towards getting things done with other like-minded people. It was Doug's absolute refusal to listen to any reason or compromise on that wretched shell pile disaster of his on Navy Point that brought me into fiery, daily, and years-long advocacy (advocacy, Trotter, not activism). The legacy that a group of us citiznes accomplished with you blazing the policy trail for increased, safer public access to our shorelines is something lasting and, to me, of profound importance. Human beings--ALL human beings--have got to be able to access that water. Our cells and souls pull us towards it like a magnet.
This is the type of passion that people in Stroberger and Kohler's camp will never understand, and that now sadly seems to go for Gene V as well. The redistricting for those who lobbied to return the Key to District 1 wasn't about retribution politics, or boxing out a candidate who was DOA anyway. For me, it was first and foremost putting a competent commissioner who actually cares about public access back in charge out there, before it was too late. I hate to think what somebody like Kohler would have gotten done out on the Key per public access...look how badly he has already screwed up Navy Point again, just another Doug Underhill kowtowing to NIMBY Karens and their self-righteous, entitled Kens.
Whatever else happens--that dangerous garbage heap of razor blade, septic shells is off the shoreline in Navy Point. Beach Access 4 is open. Pensacola Beach (despite what Tom thinks) is way safer from crazy upzoning than it would have been. At long last we got your Lillian boat ramp rolling. You saved Galvez Landing from becoming a taxpayer subsidized special interest dock for Alabama six pack captains that had *somehow* (ahem) gained Doug's favor. There will be NO Douggite shoreline overlay for half the Escambia County peninsula. A GIANT SWATH OF PERDIDO KEY BEACH WAS RETURNED TO THE PUBLIC. Staff is working on even more acquisition, you're incrementally increasing parking in advance of larger parking solutions, and now the accesses are getting the long needed attention they deserve that Doug was starving them of. Oh wait, let's not forget the sign ordinance. Lifeguards on the way.
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Thank you for not letting the haters stop you from pushing forward with concrete, real, lasting changes of profound importance, Jeff. People can bitch and moan and screech all they want that they don't like you, they can't stand your associates, you're a puppet, who cares if you got them the light they needed, nobody who talks this way, blah de effing blah. They should try Kohler's fake angel on for size. God knows what interests he would have sold out to on the Key, for 4 minutes of bad karaoke.
And Steve? At some point, Eric will probably be thrilled for me to come off my rocking chair so he can find more ways to attack me. Because the people who watch meetings are absolutely going to hear about Steve collecting those checks from his neighbors to stop a sewer project, but parlaying the money instead into his "corruption fighting" delusions, with the result that the ONE thing his neighbors trusted him to do--save the gravity sewer--ended in ECUA dumping concrete down it, once they realized he didn't have the smarts or the balls to do what needed to be done, content that his failure left his neighbors with sole-sourced, years-old buckets to shit in.
If I was on my death bed tomorrow, sorting out what I had done of meaning in my life versus what I failed to do, and divvying up what things really mattered to me in terms of how I may have had a positive impact, I guess I'm just the devil herself, because I really don't think I'd care how many people were getting ready to dance on my grave. Twirl on, harpies. Just somebody spread my ashes on the Navy Point, Pensacola Beach, or Perdido Key shoreline, so anybody that wants to stomp them into oblivion has the public access I helped return to do it. Oh, and please make sure they don't have to walk too far from parking. Hopefully by then there will be good enough ADA access in any of these places that anybody using it will be able to roll over me in their wheelchairs. I literally could not think of a better use of returning to dust than becoming part of a shoreline for people to walk over. My definition of Leaves of Grass, not to mention heaven.
Mel I am not here to attack you. I only wish you would learn how to be more positive. It the way you come across when you say stuff. Example left his neighbors with sole-sourced, years-old buckets to shit in. It is necessary to be so blunt im sorry its makes people think your bitter All I want is a happy Mel I may tease you in my mind its a form of endearment I respect you as a advocate Lets try and be more positive Jeff is doing a good job lets try and support him.
I'm STILL not Doug. And I never said I didn't like or appreciate Jeff, just that I disagree that this is an improvement, and for whatever reason i just found the "more parking" missive a skewed message to allege. If you've visited BA 2 in the past 3 years, on a hot summer day, using an unmaintained portable toilet IS like pooping in a sweltering, smelling, fly-filled metal box. I'm trypically not a crass person, but there is just no other way to say it. Jeff has said the new toilets are going to be nicer than what is there now (with trim!;), and if they are appreciably so I'll eat my hat. But, after visting BA 4 a few times, do I think it will ever, ever come close to having a concrete building with actual plumbing? I do not. In this regard, it feels like devolving. The argument against fixing the buildings has been chalked upto vandalism, and I was simply offering something that could have been tried to curb bad behavior. Its too late now. I don't know you, Mel, but I'm glad you and others care about the county in the way that you do. But hijacking a post about how portable toilets aren't better than real ones to talk about Doug, Stoberger, Navy Point, and to suggest that others like me are out to sabotage Jeff, it's divergent. I thought this blog was a place for input.
Thank you, Not Doug. For some reason or another she manages to drag Underhill and whom ever into every conversation.
Agree. Hard to imagine how a port o potti is an improvement and will not also be vandalized.
Although I am not a fan of porta-potties, I do see this as an improvement. I've spent more days than I can recall on PK beaches and seeing the vandalism has always been disheartening. I don't know why some individuals feel the need to destroy everything.
As far as "ONLY three more parking spaces", so what? I don't care if it's only ONE more parking space, we'll take it! Perdido Key needs more parking. MUCH more parking. And if one space at a time is how we accomplish that, so be it.
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