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Thursday, December 3, 2020

What Does the COVID-19 Recovered Number Look Like Locally?

Recovery Happens for the VAST majority of individuals that are diagnosed with COVID-19 locally---but what is the number??



One of the metrics I believe we desperately need to add to our daily COVID-19 Dashboard is the number of positive patients that have subsequently "recovered" from COVID-19.  Now, there are a lot of different ways to calculate this---and obviously it is an educated guess or estimate--but it can be done.




So why can't we, in Escambia County, do it?

Answer:  We can and we will.  Because I believe we have a duty to provide as much data as we can on this topic----and a good "recovered" number is a vitally important data point.

Otherwise folks are just looking at the TOTAL CASES NUMBER OF 17,177!  (representing nearly 20% of Escambia's population, or 1 in 5 people)  But wait:  That number includes ALL cases since the pandemic started in March.  Many, in fact the VAST MAJORITY of those cases have resolved and recovered (minus the 310 that unfortunately have died and those that are currently infected and fighting the disease).  But if the recovered number, right now, stands at about 13,000 of those 17,177 cases---that is good information to know.  Because that means there are really only 4,177 ACTIVE, CURRENT cases--which is a much smaller percentage (8% roughly or less than 1 in 10 ).  

Because of this and for many other good reasons, we MUST get this data point added to our dashboard.

So I discussed it at the last BCC meeting.  Staff has been looking at the data and is working on a formula.  Meanwhile--here is some initial information on this topic provided by staff:

"Testing data in Escambia County shows 17,177 citizens have tested positive, 1081 (6.3%) have been hospitalized, and 310 (1.8%) have died.   Importantly, 93.7% of citizens who tested positive in Escambia County did not require hospitalization, and 98.2% of citizens who tested positive recovered and did not die.  This can be compared to the total State of Florida residents who have tested positive (1,012,456) where 5.5% have been hospitalized and 1.86% have died."

98.2% locally have recovered thus far, and have not died.

 



5 comments:

Mel Pino said...

Commissioner Bergosh, leaving aside the incredibly misleading image of what the aftermath of covid is like for everyone still struggling with horrendous symptoms months later, and how offensive the idea is that "not dying" = "recovery" to innumerable long haulers with what could very well be permanent lung, organ, and neurological damage. (I recognize you need to believe it; it doesn't conform to reality.)

The worse problem that makes most of what you claim as hard data invalid above is that you are assuming the data coming from the state is accurate. I'm not going to spend a lot of time delineating all the ways that DeSantis and his administration have purposely corrupted the data from the onset of the pandemic. It has now been exposed, documented, and detailed in full. The information is there for anybody who is interested in reading it:

"Secrecy and spin: How Florida’s governor misled the public on the COVID-19 pandemic"

-- MARIO ARIZA, DAVID FLESHLER and CINDY KRISCHER GOODMAN
SOUTH FLORIDA SUN SENTINEL |
DEC 03, 2020 AT 1:17 PM

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-prem-desantis-spin-coronavirus-florida-20201203-hi6tbvixxbhzlmlfn2vqcyvsym-htmlstory.html

Of course, if you consider the data put out by the Coronavirus Task Force and Johns Hopkins bunk, well then, you can believe any wild conspiracy theory and false data DeSantis, Trump, and their ilk want to put out there. Remember, the geniuses running that program are the same people who are so twisted in knots from their own cognitive dissonance that they are now urging republicans not to vote.

So at that point, there's not much more to be said or debated--any further discussion seems pretty much moot. For people who actually believe the rosy picture of covid that you've painted in your post, I doubt that even staring a brutal covid death in the maw would make much difference.

Which is of course a worry for the immediate future here in Pensacola, and it also makes me very sad. But Aristotle had it right when he wrote, "Though we love both the truth and our friends, piety requires us to honor the truth first."

--Melissa Pino

Jeff Bergosh said...

Melissa: You and I disagree on the approaches to this pandemic--and frankly many other things if I'm being honest. When we disagree, know it does not mean you're right and I'm wrong. Or vice versa. On the virus: I happen to believe we in Florida are doing a much better job than are places like New York, California, and New Jersey. Of course opinions will vary and in time we will all know who had the best approach taking all factors into consideration (including small businesses and the economy overall) and who took the opportunity to seize an inordinate amount of power as this pandemic took hold. But here is a hint for you Mel. New York should not be held up as a model with their lockdowns that have crushed into oblivion an estimated 65% of all mom and pop small businesses in NYC while sporting roughly double the COVID Death Count of a place like Florida (and Florida is a bigger state than NY, Mel). Neither should California be held up with their Governor who has one set of standards for himself and his cronies while he and Garcetti in LA LOCK DOWN everyone else and tell them to stay home. They lock down all businesses tell people they can't walk their dogs, see their family, and they MUST cancel Christmas! And to any simpleton, anywhere, who believes this virus plague from China is not being hyper-politicized into a partisan power grab in Blue States like California---look no further than California's psychotic, ridiculous guidance which forces Churches and Temples to close while keeping Strip Clubs, Tattoo Shops, Massage Parlors, and Liquor Stores OPEN as essential businesses. I want data because data trumps all spin. And a recovered number is GOOD data.

Anonymous said...

Great Data Point

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Anonymous said...

Read about the kook hijacking the DOH message system? Sounds about like the kook that doesn't understand the limitations to the sunshine law and might plant or have a cohort place a listening device in the conference room and then gaslight and appears like they are trying to get ahead of the story. Who planted the bug?