Look, we get it and we all know it: Free speech is ugly, messy, and can be downright deplorable. That's why it is protected. And that's why there's this famous assessment: "because it is ugly and messy--this is precisely why free speech must be protected--as nobody has a problem with speech that offends nobody..."
Yes, I get that. And although I detest the idea of it--I understand why the courts and the ACLU defend speech that is despicable (flag burning, bible burning, the "piss" Christ, etc....)
But free speech is not without its limitation. You cannot yell "FIRE" in a crowded theater.
Here on my own blog which has steadily drawn more and more visitors and commenters--I noticed this trend of just downright despicable comments being made. The main ones I really detest are the comments that body shame folks. I also don't condone the attacks on family members of public figures.
So other sites, chat sites, can do what they want. They can condone and allow vicious, body shaming ad hominem personal attacks. They can cultivate that. I'm not, though. Because I certainly don't, and NOBODY should--condone body shaming.
For my part--I'm going to start keeping posts in moderation, and I will not approve any going forward, that body-shame anyone or drag anybody's (public figure) family members into the gutter with ad hominem's.
So yes, I'm sure anonymous commenters will still submit these to the blog, I just won't post them.
Yes, I believe in free speech. Yes, anonymous speech is free speech. But there has to be some civility--much more than what I am seeing. And so family members are off limits from this point forward on this blog. And body shaming or any sexual references or inuendos will also not be approved.
Let's have free speech. Let's have vigorous disagreements. But let's not devolve into body shaming people and dragging family members of public figures through the mud. Family members did not sign up for this.
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I appreciate what you are saying with the certain posts that are uncalled for personal attacks. I'm sure most won't miss them at all. I never have a problem with identifying my remarks here, or elsewhere. But I get that some prefer anonymity, just not me. I feel that some times when someone posts anonymously they are being negative and demeaning. Notice I said "some" and not all. Thanks for the opportunity to voice my opinion on matters that concern us fellow citizens.
People have a Constitutional right to free speech, but they don't have a right to post on your blog.
I applaud you for taking a stance against the personal attacks which were rampant on the previous blog post. While you Comm. Bergosh may not have been a part of the inferno you definitely let the fire roar. Ms. Pino wrote about this subject on her personal page about her displeasure with so many comments. What she failed to mention on her wall was that she took part in attacking AA, JAR, and ECW. She has stated that she will speak out against what she sees as “disinformation” yet she herself is guilty of spreading rumors and falsehoods. She’s a vindictive individual. Last night she wrote “Now that I scared Doug off the ticket, exposed Gilley to the point she got fired, exposed Edler to the point she got fired, and have literally destroyed ECW. She may refrain from writing about an individual’s ears, weight, or their children but her personal attacks against anyone that disagrees with her will continue. As long as she keeps attacking her arguments will be countered. Melissa Pino started this battle with her personal attacks.
P.S. This morning you replied to a comment I made yesterday Melissa thinking I am JAR. Wrong. Try again.
I'm glad to see that you agree that non-governmental social media websites/apps have the legal ability to restrict participation due to a violation of its standards of behavior.
Way to cherry pick those comments "Very Concerned." Here was my whole statement, on Randy Cudd's page. And it wasn't a personal attack on anybody, but stating that when people are being dishonest and performing falsely, you bet I am going to continue to expose and fight that. Because people who can't get hurt in the process. And I did make one misstatement there. I didn't personally destroy ECW. What I did do was put Jacqueline under so much pressure for her constant lies and disinformation that she herself is destroying her own credibility now and her own forum. Just again today she blatantly lied about a paramedic case. So when I pull that over to my page to fight it, if that does help destroy that group, fantastic. But in the end, Jacqueline has control over what happens there. If she wants to regain some credibility, she can simply stop lying and defaming people. And never once in all the time I have been attacking her lies, her credibility, and her bad tactics have I ever shamed her for anything other than her warped views and her despicable tactics.
Context: I was smack talking back at a friend who's a smack talker about Republicans saying that I can't win the race as an NPA:
"You guys really want to help the republican party? Find a candidate I can get behind, because that's a candidate that could win. But understand, if you republicans continue to screw this up, I will run and I will win.
You know my determination, Randy. You know I do not stop. So either get it together to present a republican that has ANY business running for D2, or just back off, if you can't support me. Because although I would rather not be commissioner, because I like to be boots on the ground, I can and will win this election.
Randy, you know me. Make no mistake, I am serious as a heart attack.
Now that I scared Doug off the ticket, exposed Gilley to the point she got fired, exposed Edler to the point that she got fired, and have literally destroyed ECW.
Do you really think I can't get this done?
Where there is a will there's a way."
If that's truly how you feel, why haven't the derogatory comments been removed from the previous blog entry?
Per the comment about me thinking Jacqueline is posting here anonymously, I have no reason to think that she has done so. Perhaps she has, but that doesn't really seem her style to me. Just because she falsely accuses me of doing so doesn't mean I am going to falsely accuse her in return. I've never read an anonymous comment on this blog and thought "that's Jacqueline Rogers."
--Melissa Pino
The attacks always start with one denominator, Pino. Bergosh has aligned himself with her from the beginning, he now has appointed her to the Marine Advisory Council replacing a valued member of the community with this. Your bed has been made, the bedspread is ugly btw!
I apologize, I was just trying to sound important and want you all to think I'm smart and am trying to find my purpose.
My feelings were hurt and I lashed out. I will try to get proper medication and stay on it.
The devil made me do it.
I came up with a new name for the administrator and posted the email address so now people can find a way to actually email him and participate. I called him Yes instead of Wes, aren't I clever?
Everybody says I'm a real fart smeller, I mean smart fella. Everybody knows it, we all see it.
Q made me do it.
Sad really.
It would probably good experience for Pino if Barry would appoint her to the TPO committee, if she would take it. It would be a great addition to her resume.
ECW is as strong as it ever has been... I for one will not let false info on the page. The "opinions" posted are not always opinions. There are documents for all to peruse and understand. I am friends w/ Pino, JR, AA and everyone who wants to elicit change in the way this county is run. We The People. I for one believe we are all wanting the same outcome. Our opinions just differ because of the scuttlebutt and rumor mill on the street. I will call a spade a spade. I will correct any bad info that I provide. I normally vet what info I receive. You can bet your bottom dollar that whatever I post is straight fact! Yeah right, some would say. You know how and why my info is straight fact? Because I lived it for 25+ years. Way longer than the moderator of this blog has been serving, and I use that term lightly, the county.
I don't spin anything to fit an agenda. Well, maybe. The only agenda I mam concerned w/ is the improvement of PS and every other basic function the county has that is understaffed and underfunded. ECAT, the jail (CO's, staff, medical staff), roads n bridges, etc.
The BOCC counts on apathy and ignorance of the citizens to "decide" as they please. I hear a rumbling and it ain't my belly hungering for some Sky's pizza...it's a wave of informed citizens that aren't and won't sit down or bow down to the elected. You know why? Because we put you there. If this was happening 30 maybe 50 yrs ago, they'd have been run out on a pole and tarred and feathered.
Summing it up, the BOCC loves to see the infighting because it takes our eye off the ball of what they are pitching. I would like to call for a roundtable meeting of all those that oppose how the "deciders" are handling current situations. I would like to see some genuine interest and then I will find a place and a time and we can go from there.
UNITY OF WE THE PEOPLE is the only way to effect change.
Have a fine Escambia County Day!
Yes perhaps we all in a way want the same thing, if we look at the big picture and try to rise above the squabbles.
It seems what happened the last week or so was like some one shook up a soda can and opened it and it spewed all out all over the place, Summer Solstice full moon and all that.
As far as Ms Gilley Going to work with Broxson, that may be a good move and if White takes D2 also because actually connections and knowledge can be a plus to get things done. Broxson being on the senate appropriation committee is a definite card in our favor.
Think Win Win.
If D2 does well, the whole county does well, as a whole.
Character assassination and infighting doesn't accomplish much.
If people could think of politics like sportsmanship not a battle to the death all involved would be better.
In my opinion there is a lack of management in public safety getting things up the chain to the agenda.
Of course blaming is in one way a tool in the strategy of finding and correcting errors but to stay in that accomplishes nothing.
An eye for an eye just makes everybody blind.
Like with WD Childers, people talk about the one sunshine violation and the fallout but just do a search and see what he accomplished for the county before that.
Time to go to work.
Commissioners are people too.
Bryan, I like the way you handle yourself with civility. I do disagree with you about ECW though. Jacqueline and Alex do a lot of behind the scenes dirty work. You can’t post anything they disagree with without them pitching a fit. A lot of assumptions and lies are posted there about a lot of topics. You don’t know. You can’t post anything negative that’s true about Douglas Underhill there either without them pitching a fit and his wife coming after you. His wife is constantly beating the crap out of the other Commisioners on there to try and make her husband look like a saint. She’s a bully. She makes herself look so bad doing that. He’s just as worse if not more worse than the other Commisioners. ECW won’t allow the truth about him to be told.
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Bryan Caro, I honestly appreciate your sentiment about citizen advocates working together. Here's the problem: a long while back, I sent Jacqueline Rogers multiple emails telling her that we needed to bury the hatchet for the good of the community. That we didn't have to agree about Doug, that we didn't even have to talk about him. But that if she would be willing, I would treat for lunch, coffee, whatever, and she and I could find common ground on EMS and combine our voices to getting stuff straightened out.
Not only did she not acknowledge any of my emails, but she doubled down on attacking me online. I have stood at the podium on multiple occasions when I have felt she is right and said that publicly--most recently about holding calls. What did she do? Put up the knowing disinformation that "I guess Pino doesn't like it getting out there about holding calls." That's a paraphrase, but it was a pointed lie.
I'm not talking about Fire here, or what you are posting there. I’m not in a place to gauge whether or not your information is accurate, as I haven't been speaking with folks in Fire for a while now. I stopped talking with people in Public Safety because it just put targets on their backs and the past administration was conducting witch hunts to figure out who was talking with me, and the people who were suspected of it--some of whom I had never even heard of--experienced horrendous harassment and having the toxic workplace ramped up on them. (That was time well spent.) So I am NOT saying that what you have been posting lately is disinformation, misinformation, wrong, or even just bad opinion. My comments on ECW have not had to do with your posts in particular, except that I did ask you to stop commenting on a paramedic situation because you were CLEARLY being given false information on it.
If you think that ECW is stronger than ever, I'm sorry, but you are fooling yourself. I talk with dozens of people a day, Bryan, and the only people who think that site is doing any good are the people who continually post there and scream PUBLIC SAFETY at the tops of their lungs on social media all day long. It hasn't worked yet, and as a matter of fact, it only hurts now, because not just the decision makers but the community as a whole has checked out from that board, other than to keep an eye peeled on the spectacle of the meltdown happening currently.
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Please keep in mind that it was Administration, and not the BOCC, that failed so miserably in the negotiations with Fire and ATU. Do they have blame in that? To my mind, yes, as the Board let a failing administration run on too long. I think I might have stated that publicly about a thousand times, both online and addressing them directly down at the meetings.
But now that there is a change in leadership direction, I believe there IS more room for reasonable discussions to take place and progress to be made. Just as with the failed and divisive "What Will It Take Campaign," I can assure you that if starting salaries get raised, equipment and facility inadequacies are addressed, and the staffing situation improves in both Fire and EMS, it will be in spite of, rather than because of, Jacqueline Rogers's advocacy. She had a lot of political power at one time, when she was under Doug Underhill's protection. Now that he has lost interest and is just going through the motions--voting against her on almost every recent land use item that she advocated for--I can assure you that many, many people, including a lot of County staff who hate that site, are breathing a sigh of relief that the reign of terror is over. So if what you posting over there is accurate information, and I have no reason to believe it isn't, you're shooting yourself in the foot to deliver it up to a group of people that many have come to consider an online mob. I don't say that to attack or dispirit you; it's just the stone cold truth from where I sit and the feedback I get on a daily basis.
I recognize that old habits die hard, but you have been attending the recent meetings, and your eyes are wide open. What was ECW's score card at the last meeting? Do you really think that's going to change in the future? The BOCC don't seem to give a fiddler's fart what those people have to say. They sit through the noise and then make the actions that they think are best. Whether those are the right decisions is--of course--up for debate. My point is, those decisions haven't had anything to do with ECW's opinion for quite some time now, and the explosion of disinformation and vitriol emanating from the forum the last couple of weeks is the final nail in the coffin, unless some big change happens in which the administration and moderation of that board finally grasp that the truth actually matters. And even if Jacqueline herself got on the straight and narrow, Alex Arduini and his delusional, conspiracy riddled social media “war” tactics are guaranteed to be the death of any forum that he invades. No good will come of it.
--Melissa Pino
Bryan, that’s a crock of you know what. ECW is full of misinformation and lies. Plus daily attacks on anyone that dares post something that doesn’t fit their narrative or says something bad about underhill and his district. A girl was under attack today by underhill’s wife and friends for just posting about a park that Needs mulch. They don’t know what unity means just chronic complainers and hate spreaders.
Disagree. Escambia county citizens watch is a cesspool of hate and personal attacks.
👆👆👆 who clued Pino in for additional comments. Nobody attacked anybody on ECW about a post concerning a park. What she constantly ignores is almost anybody can check for themselves and will discover she's a habitual liar. Pino go back to your personal page and give your followers your daily political lies. I don't think you've made everybody mad at yet.
👆👆👆 who clued Pino in for additional comments. Nobody attacked anybody on ECW about a post concerning a park. What she constantly ignores is almost anybody can check for themselves and will discover she's a habitual liar. Pino go back to your personal page and give your followers your daily political lies. I don't think you've made everybody mad at yet.
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yes OP was for opening the beach access #4 that belongs to us so they summonsed their buzzards to come peck her eyes out like the old Hitckcock movie "The Birds" So she's on the hit list. One is still in there smart enough to try to navigate around them.
It's great the confederate monument will be replaced hopefully and that the greatest FL governor of all time is putting a foot down about the Marxist encroachment in our universities and in the country. The indoctrination from CRT and the 1619 project need to be discontinued.
It sets us a false dichotomy to perpetuate communism in our republic which always ends badly.
A republic based on rule of law and the constitution will be preserved.
Happy to see our local leaders are standing up for that.
If the foundation of your political campaign is to trash the host of Escambia Citizens Watch and the moderators and the people that comment PLUS boycott any business who's owner may comment then its really going to suck for you election night. All I've ever heard you say is they are spreading disinformation. Never once any sort of clarification out of you.
In my observation Pino and the Underhills and Jacqueline Rogers and Edler are all very similar in shutting down free speech and a cordial exchange of ideas. Different tactics.
My Way or the Highway.
It seems especially true of some left leaning people all over to country to me. Perhaps the universities are teaching that if any one disagrees, the are to be ostracized, labeled, attacked, shunned, mocked, turned into the FBI, reported, arrested, and so on.
Stereotyped, grouped, labeled, disrespected etc.
There was a day when finer education was for a free sharing of ideas and a chance for enlightenment and people listened and respected conflicting ideas, it was a place for growth and teaching critical thinking skills, not a call to conformity.
It seems the left leaning people are the true fascists.
We've lost much in our country the last 50 years in this regard.
Not Alex, Evie was attacked by Wendy Underhill on the park thread. JK also attacked her. Look where it says “the comment Ruth is replying to has been deleted” that was Wendy’s attack post. Look at the attacks from JK to.
Wendy you need to get your temper under control. I see why your neighbors hate you. You’re mean. You attack everyone.
Underhill came in at war with local leaders, the rest of the board and anyone who disagrees with him. That's why he is a failure at being a member of a government body. Not a good fit.
Only 502 days left until the next election.
I remember as child watching monkeys in the zoo throwing poop at each other.
SOS DD
I thought the family members were off limits, I guess that only holds true if they stay out of the arena.
When is David Bear going to post all the records of them?
off topic but worth a look
https://babylonbee.com/news/here-are-the-7-most-dangerous-criminals-from-the-january-6-capitol-attack
To all...
Perhaps I may be wrong about ECW. Perhaps not. Maybe I am naïve to what yall are telling me about ECW. I will look thru a different lens from now on and try to rectify anything degrading or waht appears to be an attack. I try and defend what I think is right whether I agree or not. I'm not so open minded that my brain falls out though. I do appreciate those that have recognized the civility that I use and I thank you. I am trying to post things to my timeline as I post them to ECW. I agree their is a fair share of disparaging going on. With that being said, we have two commissioners that are not setting a good example then. Don't just single out Underhill. I have no political ties to him or D2. If the monkey poo is flying as one poster said, Bergosh needs to be mentioned in the same breath. The way that the BOCC speaks to the people they work for is ignoble. The superiority complex is brazen and unnecessary. I digress...
Mel... everything I speak to about fire is from 25 years of experience and knowledge. Same with EMS. I vet, or at least to the best of my ability, every piece of info I receive. There are those with their own agenda out there to climb the ladder of success via the knife they put in someone else's back. This has been the nomenclature in PS for years and it's a cancer all throughout the nation in this field. It's that way anywhere competition to be better is involved. If there is some questionable info that I receive or hear, I correct as soon as I can. So I suppose you could say I'm an "expert" when it comes to the issues at PS. At least at fire and some at EMS.
As far as the negotiations go and the admin shouldering the blame, do you mean county admin or fire admin? If you mean fire admin, the only admin that would be present to make a decision or assist in a decision would be the current interim FC, if I am correct. I will check and advise later. If you mean County admin, then absolutely. They put off talking for weeks at a time and seemed to blame convid when it was convenient. That or someone from the dais was advising them to stall because of some campaign promise they hadn't fulfilled yet. Just a theory. I will solidify this info later unless someone else has direct info from a direct source from the Union or FD admin.
I still think we need to have a roundtable and put all personal feelings aside and discuss what info we have. Yes, I know the berg reads these but I don't care. At least he knows we're here and there are citizens who expect change in the current dysfunctional circus of the dais. I noticed something the other day while I was speaking at the meeting. The old chambers of the BOCC was designed where the dais was eye level w/ the constituents. The City council chambers are the same way. What was the need to make the dais "high and mighty"? It's a psychological matter. Whether on purpose or accident, I can't say. The dais seems, at least a few, to forget that the one's speaking and watching put them in that part-time $80k/yr job. No application, no interviews, no tests so to speak. I know, I know...all those things I mentioned happen during a campaign but they have a team and it's not solely a one-on-one type deal. I'm not that ignorant.
I'm not keeping score and I am not playing for a certain team. I am in this for the Brothers and Sister of PS. They have been shat on too long and I am sick of it. I feel a relief now that I had to "separate from the County" according to Janice. If you want the details, I will be more than happy to provide the truth to you. You know where to find me on Fakebook lol...
As always...
Have a fine Escambia County day!! Love yall, stay in it!
I don’t know if ECW is spreading disinformation but I do know they spread hate. Personal
Attacks and hatred is rampant there.
The hate here and on Escambia citizens watch is a bad look for the community..As a realtor I always recommend newcomers join their neighborhood pages for community information. The hatred I’ve seen comes from the same people and it’s ugly.
Marlette ASS U ME S a great deal, doesn't he? See the latest flop the minions will eat up?
I suspect Mrs Gilley is enjoying her handsome severance package and is Tallahasse bound like a weight has been lifted off her shoulders.
Although one commentor here (Pino) feels these personal attacks are in poor taste she just can’t stop. One of her daily rants came across my FB feed this afternoon and once again she’s talking smack about somebody’s looks. Now I’m sure she’ll reply to her that she wasn’t talking about a person directly today but the simple fact is she felt compelled to bring this up with her one of her cult followers. Sure this didn’t happen on this blog but this is just an example of what she does on a daily basis. I guess old habits are hard to break.
so it's ok to talk about Wendy just not keep up the comment you removed , you know the one that from wendy's page where Alex was desperately trying to get out announcing that Mel was a HCP Cluster B, which might be good info to help people to under stand what the hell is going on and how we might can also protect ourselves..but I get it, you don't want to be the next target of blame. so you put up the body shaming post..
hold in moderation
NAJ, Wendy embraced the nickname of Bowl Cut Betty a long time ago. It's hardly body shaming or attacking someone's family members who are well out of the political fray. Wendy hardly qualifies for any sort of special treatment in that regard, and has been almost as big a bane on social media as Doug is. What she lacks in volume and comprehension she makes up for in vitriol. Here's a comment from Doug's string about purchasing property up in the North County to be "off grid" (technically illegal in the state of Florida, of course, not that the law ever stopped him...I wonder if he got a lucrative license to farm marijuana):
"you would be horrified at what's happening down here. Doug is only one vote against the four other commissioners, who are both dumb AND corrupt as all get-out." --Wendy Underhill
I could care less about ECW types attacking people heavily involved in politics politically. It is their malicious lies and slander, particularly when they target people who can't for various reasons defend themselves, that I will continue to call out. Trash my character and impugn my motives all day--fair game. Trying to inculcate the public with vicious and malignant disinformation campaigns against people under a gag order is something else entirely, as any decent person understands.
Underhill was an early adopter of questionable social media war tactics and was even giving "cyber security" talks on disinformation strategies as early as 2016. It's clear now that his special brand of treachery, deceit, and chaos was an early indicator of where social media was headed, and we see the results today. The military has a lot to answer to in allowing its own to turn propaganda tactics developed for use in some real global hell holes against American citizens. Hopefully they are in the process of weeding such things out, but we're nowhere near any resolution of it yet, with QAnon still raging behind the scenes in pockets of every corner of our military, our policing bodies, and our country.
--Melissa Pino
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Bryan, I read your comments when they were posted, but wanted some quiet time to respond to them, because the situation is so complex and urgent with so many facets of Public Safety, I didn't want to throw something down half cocked.
Yes, I was speaking to County Administration and not Fire Administration in the negotiations. Although I certainly haven't been subtle about my thoughts on upper admin in Fire--a total joke, and dishonest to boot. I'm not talking about the new Chief, obviously, and I think Eric Gilmore will be able to do a much better job not being hemmed in by the politics of the Administration above him. (As for the past short-lived head of Public Safety, good riddance.)
I turned over a lot of documentation on some of Fire Admin's shady financials, conflict of interest, not logging personal time, bad procurements etc to Administration, and was assured that a proper investigation with suitable outcomes would take place. Nada, of course. I think some of the bad blood the Fire Union held against me (maybe still does, I honestly don't know) was because when I was talking about corruption in the Fire Dept, they thought I was speaking to boots on the ground. That was never the case. The tragedy of the situation at Fire overall is that Doug Underhill whipped the union into a war with Jeff Bergosh--divide and conquer being one of his favorite strategies, and he is more adept at it than anyone I've ever seen. We've all seen the results, while he has sat back and enjoyed the carnage he wrought. There simply is no way of telling where things would be with Public Safety if Doug hadn't become commissioner and commenced his war against the County by pretending to give a damn about Public Safety, when all along Fire and EMS have just been pawns in his attempt to annihilate his own Board in the interests of his multitude of development puppet masters--Downtown, the Beach, the Key, and North County.
Again, as far as the Fire info you are relaying goes, I am simply not in a place to evaluate the veracity. I have no reason to think it's not accurate, but have zero way to verify it. You know, trust but verify. (con.)
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Per the EMS situation, where you say that you are a partial expert--no, Bryan, you're not. I can tell you as I type this that I know far and way more about what is going on with that situation that you do. Like Commissioner Bergosh, I have been privy to documents and facts that would simply blow your mind. So I ask you to take a step back and really evaluate where your certainty in these matters is coming from. Is it from documents on the certifications? Transcripts of the FDLE interviews? Letters written by attorneys? Remember, all you have seen is the probable cause findings that DOH slaps together on a wing and a prayer these days, off of little investigation. That's Underhill knowingly providing a one-sided picture. Thank God that DOH doesn't oversee the administrative hearings, if it gets that far.
Are you aware, Bryan, that the DOH was decimated under Rick Scott? That when the EMS thing blew up, they didn't even have enough investigators to clear stacks and stacks of complaints on VERY serious matters--malpractice matters, botched surgeries, etc. If I am remembering right, they didn't even have a medical doctor at the head of that agency for a portion of this mess. And their practice now is to hire "investigators" who don't have any experience with investigating, period, let alone anything medical. They get thrown in for a little on-the-job training, push paperwork having no idea what they're doing, and then typically roll out of there in a year or two. It is my understanding that an "investigator" in one of the key EMS complaints hadn't been there but a year or two, turned in the results of the investigation, and is already gone.
Are you aware that in some of these criminal cases there is no evidence at all but hearsay, and that in at least one administrative complaint they didn't even produce any half-baked evidence? None at all.
I've offered to meet with you to walk you through this, as you and I have never spoken offline about these issues, other than me PMing you begging you not to partake in the mob hit that has been orchestrated on these people through ECW, Doug and Administration's leaks to the media, and very biased reporting in the PNJ, which I am grateful has been corrected. Jim Little has been doing an excellent job of reporting responsibly on this matter now, for which many people are very grateful. He even issued a correction on his last article after he realized that he had gotten the timeline messed up. Which is understandable; it's a Gordon knot of a railroading.
I am willing to speak with anyone who comes to the table with a pledge for honesty. Jacqueline Rogers simply is no longer capable of it. I truly can't tell any more whether she is even aware when she is lying or libeling someone. She has been doing it for so long, with so many masters demanding her bidding, that she seems to have lost all track to me. The worst effect of her horrendous disinformation machine, and Doug's constant warfare hammering, is that this community seems to assume the EMS are guilty of the charges brought on them. Well, that certainly wasn't true in the case of Steve White, Bryan. Do you think that man deserved what happened to him? Does anybody? Or are we just going to throw out the rule of law and visit retribution on people we don't personally like, or with a management style we don't agree with. Two words: DUE PROCESS. If this County had had a semblance of following that during the last two years, I assure you Public Safety wouldn't be in nearly this big a mess.
Thank you for your thoughtful and sincere response.
--Melissa Pino
It seems like only criminals are supporting Pino. The arrest records for her vocal supporters are mind blowing, like Mrs Carmichael and her husband.
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