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| This screen shot is taken from a social media post made over the weekend, purportedly showing the private text messages between Melissa Pino and Eric Sharplin during last Thursday's BCC meeting. The question now turns to whether or not the taking of this photo by a third party surreptitiously, and the subsequent dissemination of this screenshot, was/is legal. One lawyer with whom I have spoken believes it was not illegal..... |
This weekend a lot of accusations and allegations are flying. There is a HUGE back and forth in the comments on an unrelated blog post about what apparently transpired in the chambers during last Thursday's Board of County Commissioner's meeting.
Was the act of leaning over a person in the row ahead inside our chamber Thursday and the deliberate taking of pictures to intercept text messages an act that was illegal?
This is what has been alleged to have happened during our meeting, and apparently the picture that was taken was posted on social media on several sites. I have received screen shots that purport to show this.
One lawyer with whom I have spoken has said clearly no, it is not a violation of law. "In a public place folks can take pictures and there is not necessarily an expectation of privacy--it is up to the individual to know their surroundings and not allow something that is potentially classified, personal, or embarrasing to be viewable." And I suppose that makes sense, and that's how photographers with telescopic lenses get unflattering pictures of celebrities in public in order to sell such materials to tabloids.
But that opinion appears to be in contradiction to this statute which clearly states that the act of using an electronic device to intercept an electronic communication is unlawful.
Now, perhaps that statute only refers to electonic devices that jam transmissions or intercept electronic transmissions remotely--not necessarily in such a rudimentary way as leaning over someone's shoulder and taking pictures of someone's laptop screen or smartphone to share what is captured? Who knows, the lawyers will have to sort this one out--which I'm sure will happen this week.
But one thing to ponder: Would it be illegal under that same state statute for someone to leer over a person using an ATM in public in an attempt to video the act of a user punching in his/her PIN code at the ATM? Would that be illegal (I'd like to think so), and if so, why would it NOT be illegal to purposely film and publish someone's private text messages by snapping pictures over the shoulders of the unsuspecting attendees at a county commission meeting?
Either which way--it's unnerving to think someone would do this--particularly at a commission meeting. Why?
Believe me, there are much more interesting things to pursue than people's text messages back and forth about opinions of a government meeting. And this opinion of mine comes from a vantage point of a person who was actually in the meeting participating.
Weird, creepy, and unnerving. But hey, just when I thought I'd seen it all in 15 years in public office locally, along comes this, LOL. 😛
Happy Father's Day!
107 comments:
What in the pensacola trailer park craziness is going on here? There’s so much drama and “I’m going to ruin your life first” soap opera scenes going on.
I’m going to write a book and I’ll title it eSCAMbia County Citizens Watch Gone Wild. Or eSCAMbia County Citizens Watch Party Down South in honor of Gene Valentino.
Melissa Pino will be in charge of fixing my grammar in the book since she’s a Harvard grad. Or not. The rumors about her change by the minute. I can’t keep up. She could just be a waitress but I don’t know. I do know she can fix my “dangling modifiers” whatever that is. or is it a dingle hopper? If she’s not a Harvard grad she can take my food orders. But for the love of god don’t talk my head off when I’m busy writing.
Jacqueline Aimme Rodgers will be in charge of providing snacks and making sandwiches for me while I write. She looks like she knows how to cook if you know what I mean. She can also slander the heck out of people that don’t buy my book on her Facebook group. She’s good at that and spends alllllll her time doing it.
Alex Arduini will be in charge of peddling the book on the busiest street corners in town. He acts like a used car salesman mixed with a little street corner preacher and someone that’s sold some things on the streets if you know what what I mean. Wink wink. He’ll tell QANON on you if you don’t buy from him so you better buy 10 copies each. Or he will take pictures of your personal texts at the next board of county commissioners meeting and try to ruin you with them.
Commissioner Douglas Underhill will be in charge of making lives miserable for people that dont buy my book. He can ride his jet ski in front of their houses at midnight when they’re tryin to sleep. And rag on them on Facebook until they buy it. Just don’t get sued again dude because I’m not paying your legal bills and it looks like the county won’t either. Better update that go fund me page just in case or ask David Bear Jr for a loan.
Wendy Underhill will be in charge of pissing off non buyers in other ways and making them hate her like all of her neighbors do. Just don’t drink on the job Wen and pass out cold before your job is done. But for the love of god don’t be the only wife harassing the other Commisioners on Facebook and get us sued. I can’t afford your legal bills and looks like you can’t either.
Do any of y’all see how stupid you look yet or are you just really angry now and you want to run me out of town or tar and feather me in the town center?
Interception implies that the intended recipient was somehow prevented from receiving the communication. That clearly did not happen in this case. I'm no lawyer, but I am an IT professional, and have been for nearly 30 years. If you want to keep your written communications secure, do not view them in a crowded location. Fault here should lie completely with the person who allowed the communication to be seen (not intercepted) by a third party.
My daughter made me aware of this incident and I must say I’m very concerned by it. She works for the city and she has seen some things too at meetings but nothing to this extreme. I fear for the safety of audience members and the county commissioners.
The incident is being discussed amongst some city and county employees and on Facebook. Whomever the guilty party is, this is low life behavior and a bad look for Escambia county.
I saw the screenshots of the text picture Alex Ardini is posting online. It’s been said 2 others were with him at the county Commisioners meeting where the incident happened and all 3 are said to be trouble makers. The couple that was with Alex Ardini was Jacqueline Rogers (admin at Escambia county citizens watch)and Sean Bullington.
What is this county coming to where the public isn’t safe and personal property isn’t respected at these meetings? They’re making a mockery of the county meetings. It’s embarrassing to Escambia county as a community. We’re classier and better than this.
Regardless if it’s illegal or not, the county has to conduct an investigation to ensure public safety at the meetings. If one of them goes off the deep end the county will be sued into bankruptcy. We should feel safe coming to the meetings to discuss county issues.
This is how desperate Jacqueline Rogers is in her vengeance to get back at the board because you guys don’t cave to her every whim anymore, and her life is useless without it.
She saw this post and she knows all about the pictures being taken by Alex Arduini, so to deflect from this issue, she posted a long, heart string pulling, emotional letter, that she claims came from a firefighter. Who is the fire fighter Jacqueline Rogers? You’re a liar. Prove me wrong. I can guarantee you a fireman didn’t write that sappy story, Jacqueline did 😂
Thank you for taking time to post this, Commissioner Bergosh. If you think this was creepy and pushing the envelope of illegality--you ain't seen nothin yet. Anything can happen when QAnon conspiracists bring their deranged ideation that they are in a literal war with elected officials and fellow citizens to a public meeting, and employ the disinformation tactics they are inculcated with from some of the darkest corners of the social media world. We should all be fully aware of that by now. No doubt the military-style pseudo tribunal the Board was subjected to wasn't lost on you all. Gee, where have we seen that before.
I can't understand how this action doesn't fall not only under state statute, but federal law:
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18 U.S. Code § 2511 - Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic communications prohibited
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2511?fbclid=IwAR1U-QiZtM0ZFqBDNvX6Ke2EYt6D4JYFPYKs2A4hXf0k1tlTormXYPcg0UU
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Hopefully in this instance the unease of local authorities to not mix with "politics" doesn't result in the shrugging off of a serious consideration of this, and the refrain of "this is a civil not a criminal matter" isn't just a knee-jerk.
This isn't about politics, but a dangerous cult mentality that delights in breaking boundaries and pressing the limits of the law to invade privacy, and it should be considered a security risk that demands the utmost attention from local authorities for the safety of everyone who attends meetings in Escambia County governmental buildings.
I have an opinion from a lawyer familiar with this issue that it might rise to a felony, and plan on consulting a criminal attorney as well. A friend of mine also consulted an attorney who is knowledgeable about such issues, and his opinion was the BOCC and ECSO darn well better take this seriously, as it's a security risk in a governmental building. Perhaps it's time for Escambia to stop pretending QAnon isn't really a thing but just a foolish joke. People have been screaming it from the rooftops to area police agencies for over a year now, since before most people here had heard of it, and when reasonable people still thought it would be contained before anything really serious happened.
And, of course, the same person who disclosed and disseminated the private messages--he now claims he didn't take the photo, so a well-orchestrated investigation might put some pressure on the nexus--has already amped up the game, and posted the disinformation on another string here a lunatic fantasy wherein I tried to get a professor at the Kennedy School fired who later went on to be involved with the International Monetary Fund. I suppose Soros, Hillary, and Obama were in on that also.
Can you imagine, if through their desperate search for "bread crumbs"--remember that aspecgt of their feverish activities?--they actually came up with THAT? It is truly frightening how divorced from reality these people really are.
I'm also grateful for the chance to clarify my remark on you "shouldering" the discussion, which wasn't meant in terms of any financial outcome, but that good people recognized the contract item was going to be personally painful to Commissioner Barry, and that you were doing the heavy lift on Ms. Childers's absurd politicking so he didn't have to lead on both items. Decent people saw that.
If the local authorities say that this wasn't an illegality, I would like to understand exactly why. "This is a civil matter" with no explanation of that opinion may be an answer that makes the civil litigators happy, but if QAnon activity is going to be nipped in the bud here before it gets out of control, then any illegalities need to be taken seriously. I have a lot of respect for Sheriff Simmons and a lot of hope for Ginger Maddens's tenure, and would imagine they see the danger signs here.
Again, thanks for taking time from Father's Day. Have a great one.
--Melissa Pino
Anonymous IT,
Your distinction of "intercept not see" sounded plausible, so I thought, okay, maybe there lies the rub. Because I really am trying to understand the legality of this, and know that just because sometimes local agencies say "it's civil" when they sometimes mean "we're not touching this criminal activity" doesn't mean that's *always* the case. I've had many helpful conversations with ECSO about some of the harassment activity happening, and have agreed up to this point that nothing had reached a criminal complaint.
So I looked up the legal definition of interception. From the DOJ's point of view, it sure looks as if they consider "interception" to mean "acquire":
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The term "intercept" is defined in 18 U.S.C. § 2510(4) to mean the aural or other acquisition of the contents of any wire, electronic, or oral communication through the use of any electronic, mechanical, or other device. The Criminal Division takes the position, espoused by a number of courts, that would limit "intercept" to "the participation by the one charged with an `interception' in the contemporaneous acquisition of the communication through the use of [a] device." United States v. Turk, 526 F.2d 654, 658 (5th Cir.) (replay of audio cassette), cert. denied, 429 U.S. 823 (1976). Accord Reynolds v. Spears, 93 F.3d 428, 432 (8th Cir. 1996). See Payne v. Norwest, 911 F. Supp. 1299, 1303 (D. Mont. 1995) (voice mail).
https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1046-definition-intercept
Mrs. Bergosh must be thrilled to have someone frothing over her husband's balls in a text message... #Classless
Thanks for highlighting that Commissioner Bergosh was arguing for Commissioner Steven Barry!
Thank you for also highlighting these kinds of back door communications that happen frequently at the BOCC meetings.
It’s Legal, you should be fine with it, “Mr. Is It Legal”! Jajajaja
Alex Arduini, At least Mrs. Bergosh has the class to not downgrade her husband’s colleagues all over Facebook. #classless
One last thought on this for now:
Since Alex Arduini is now claiming he didn't take the photo, but it was given to him, and that there was a group of people concerned, if this does indeed rise to criminal activity, does that take it to the level of conspiracy?
The DOJ is at this very moment pursuing some of these issues with all seriousness at a federal level.
I just saw the previous comment about County and City staff being gravely concerned with this. As well they should be, for a multitude of obvious reasons. Their leadership, our elected officials, and our local agencies have an obligation to keep them, and their information, safe as well.
From where I sit, it's no coincidence that a Commissioner's social security number might have been leaked to an anonymous public records requester whom many suspect might have been Alex Arduini or Doug Underhill (or the two working in tandem), with Jacqueline Rogers performing outrage at the podium that her similar records request came with a price tag. Things that make you go hmmm.
--Melissa Pino
Pino is by far the worse person to take screenshots and post them all over the web. When is she going to be investigated?
Commisioner Bergosh,
I don’t live in your district so I don’t read your blog, but an employee of mine brought this blog post to my attention because of Alex Arduini’s name being mentioned in the comment section. I’d like to make you aware of a situation that involved Mr. Arduini and another young man by the name of Tori Balogh.
On August 14th 2020 Mr. Balogh went into several downtown businesses without a mask during the height of the pandemic, during a time where small business owners implemented their own mask rules to keep employees and customers safe and businesses open. Alex Arduini accompanied Mr. Balogh to video him. Come to find out Mr. Arduini and Tori Balogh planned this 2 man protest and Mr. Arduini advertised it on his Facebook page. Long story short, Mr. Balogh was asked to put on a mask (he knew he would refuse to and make a scene over it) and he was asked to leave when he refused to. He also stated he would pass out spontaneously if he wore a mask. After doing this to several businesses, him and Mr. Arduini went to the side of the street and Mr. Balogh yelled into a bullhorn that he was being discriminated against, and he told a WEAR reporter that he had filed ADA complaints against every Pensacola business that has denied him service. He also said he planned to file lawsuits against all of the businesses. Which never came to fruition.
It is my belief and opinion, the actions of Mr. Balogh and Mr. Arduini was a concocted scheme by 2 opportunists to make a quick buck from attempting to sue struggling downtown business owners for discrimination. It didn’t happen. I believe they were unable to afford a lawyer or find one to take the case. Agree with mask rulings or not, small businesses did everything possible to stay open for Pensacola.
Now to see he was possibly involved in this incident at a county meeting isn’t shocking in the least bit, but frightening.
Here’a the WEAR article and in the video you can see Alex Arduini and Tori Balogh walking on the sidewalk together.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/weartv.com/amp/news/local/man-with-disability-claims-discrimination-by-pensacola-businesses-for-not-wearing-mask
Alex Arduini spending his Father’s Day on ECW gossiping with his old lady friends instead of spending time with his kids. Priorities.
so what did mel text to barry..lol
you can see him on ECTV the dais texting like crazy, I was wondering about that.
turn off your phones and get some work done.
Jacqueline Rogers, I know your bottom is glued to a chair and your eyes fixated on the internet so I know you’ll read my comment or one of your gang will post it for you to see. I left your group today. You and a couple others spend too much time attacking people instead of helping with solutions. Your page doesn’t represent our community, it represents hate and personal vendettas. I won’t support anyone that takes part in the hate that goes on in that group. Your group only exists to attack people you don’t like. Escambia county needs solutions for our very real many issues, but your group is creating more and I won’t be part of it. Before you accuse me of it, NO IM NOT MELISSA PINO.
Anonymous 12:10 PM, the distinction that is apparently lost on you is that I only post content that is from public sites where anybody can see it. And I will continue to do so as a way of drawing public attention to the dangerous disinformation strategies some local sites such as ECW are partaking in, as it is quickly escalating into a real security concern now. (Don't say I didn't warn ya that this is exactly where that site has been trending.)
While Studio 850 may consider posting screen shots of publicly advertised information that is not sensitive personal info doxing, the act in and of itself is not by most reasonable people considered doxxing, unless it contains sensitive information about a particular person that might pose a danger to someone's security and well being.
The definition "screen shots of other pages" for doxing is a simplistic definition that certainly doesn't assist in the community's need to know who the dangerous actors are and aren't.
Planned disinformation strategies and lunatic conspiracy theory are not "opinion," nor does capturing them off an online public venue--particularly those venues that are aggressively and publicly courting users--does not even come close to unethical, let alone illegal.
--Melissa Pino
"Families of elected officials should not touch tax dollars. Simple rule."
Douglas Underhill 6/20/21
See they hypocrisy here from one drawing two government paychecks ( I think).. his family must be destitute (sarc)
lol
Turn it off
It’s not illegal to repost something someone posted online lol you people are silly fools.
This 👆🏿
I laughed so hard I spit my water.
I don’t have to buy the book I can watch it for free on Facebook but I do have another name if you publish…..County Of Fools And Tools.
It’s got a nice ring to it.
Commissioner Bergosh,
This has you upset, Ms Pino’s cell phone?
1. Meanwhile you’re not at all upset that a private citizen who made an anonymous public records request had their identity hunted down by an Escambia County employee whose identity has NOT been released?
2. You believe that, rather than reform an obscenely generous benefit which fleeces the taxpayers, commissioners should not hesitate to enrich themselves?
3. You continue to engage in petty squabbles during commission meetings. NOT to determine whether or not your actions are unethical, but you seemingly are merely concerned whether or not your actions are technically ILLEGAL.
4. In 2018 you championed a referendum that clearly stated that unleased properties on Pensacola Beach should NOT be leased, but then you sold a previously unleased Casino Beach property to Innisfree Hotels then re zoned it to allow Julian MacQueen to construct yet ANOTHER huge mixed use condominium complex in the heart of Pensacola Beach.
But you weren’t done…
5. You then, in the shadows, granted Julian MacQueen and his Innisfree Hotel the approval to rebuild the Best Western on Pensacola Beach with nearly double the original hotel rooms.
Thanks in advance for that coming two-year enormous development project, sir.
6. Then you released Mr. MacQueen from paying the $326,000 impact fee that is intended to complete the capital improvements required to mitigate the injury to the community that results from these sorts of huge development projects taking place on our fragile barrier island.
7. You and your two buddies on the BCC recently, improperly, moved a $3.3 million dollar FEMA grant applied for by Escambia County for dune restoration on Pensacola Beach.
8. You publicly pilloried former Administrator Janice Gilley who truly rescued you and your BCC buddies from an extremely dark era in which scandal and revolving Admin heads were the norm.
Weren’t you on the BCC when the BCC took charge of our jail, then quickly burned it to the ground?
Then, you claim to have lost confidence in Ms. Gilley’s efforts?
You have the ability to be a change agent endeavoring to make Escambia County great.
Instead you are acting like a world class jerk.
Get it together, please, Commissioner Bergosh!
I’m not going to allow you to continue to be mediocre.
I received a text that ECW was going with their disinformation on a paramedic again, so sighed and went over to see if they had new lies to tell, or just the old ones.
Just the old ones on that, but as Jacqueline Rogers continues her public come-apart, she just tipped her QAnon involvement.
She did the same thing under stress when she blurted out the other night that she was aware that "Dr. Edler had already disciplined" Matt Selover before, which of course she had no right statutorily to do. (She then in the same post chastised someone for not understanding how EMS works, and that the Medical Director has no right to involve herself in administrative duties. Cognitive dissonance at its finest.)
Apparently her focus on Father's Day is to sit in her war room and keep people spun up, and if anybody is wondering why there has been such a change in her register, it's because she has been a kind of QAnon lite for a long time, keeping it on the low-down for the most part, but giving hints here and there. Such as when she swapped out her profile photo for the image of an empty gas tank, which is short for "white guilt fuel gauge."
Well, her Q is full on now, as Alex Arduini has become an unofficial lead of ECW. In accordance, she just stated the following, publicly:
"I'm just saying there should be more outrage from the people who associate with these people. They don't care about a couple voices that they most likely won't encounter in business and society. And I know that retaliation is real so every situation is different. But more people need to stand up and say this is totally unacceptable. We will not put our community in danger and be silent because of your bad actions. But at this point, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TIME FOR A GREAT AWAKENING IN ESCAMBIA COUNTY (my emphasis). I think the Governor needs to step in now!"
For those still unfamiliar with QAnon's queasy lingo, the "Great Awakening" was the prediction--one conspiracy among many--that Trump Faithful in the US Military would install martial law, round up Trump's "enemies," hang them at Guantánamo, and render Trump his rightful throne. (It was right up there with the Q belief that Trump was going to bring John F Kennedy Jr. out on the stage at Mount Rushmore to explain he had faked his death and announce him as his running mate. Jacqueline attended a watch party for that event with Arduini and Mike Hill.)
What's happening in Escambia in this moment is NOT an accident, but part of a bigger implosion among QAnon cult romancers who are at a loss now that the Q drops have stopped, and the strategy is shifting to "time to take things into our own hands." For any who aren't aware, for example, the leaders of that Recall Florida business that she is featuring hot and heavy on ECW are also starting to pop up on local Q sites.
Hey, while they figure out their next move in their imagined war, they've always got Peacock emails to fill the void of the Q drops.
In all seriousness, however, this needs to be taken seriously. Because these people are becoming seriously unhinged.
--Melissa Pino
Jacqueline Rodgers site is nothing but attacks, hate, more attacks, hearsay, hate, more attacks, conspiracy theories concocted from mental illness, hate, more attacks, chronic complaining, hate, more attacks, zero positivity, hate, more attacks, chronic negativity, hate, more attacks, loneliness, hate, more attacks, slander, hate, more attacks, character assassination, hate, more attacks, sadness, hate, more attacks, manipulation tactics, hate, more attacks, lies, hate, more attacks, mental illness, hate, more attacks, worthless time spent, hate, more attacks, loss of life spending 24/7 on the internet, hate, more attacks.
when Underhill sat in that seat next to Alison he would have a laptop, cell phone plus the one you all use during the meeting. I called it mission control.
Jacqueline would be typing on ECW the meeting thread and every one that trusted it was unbiased citizen site and not watching for themselves couldn't tell she would "have to get off" for some reason and that's when he would try unpopular items like the roundabout on the beach. He called special meeting on memorial weekend when he was chairman and get everyone riled up on a different topic and assemble his tiger teams and keep you til midnite, to pass a boondoggle for his handlers... costed up about 2 million then shelved. would have been about 20-30 m out of LOST.
Government by social media and drama.
How's that working out?
I suppose it's easy to get on ECW blame the other four commissioners for everything when he hasn't brought up the scale of employees either nor solved any problems but just has made it worse.
I hope Interum Aministrator Morena gets things under control.
Can't wait until Underhill leaves his seat and perhaps ECW can become a citizen site not a propaganda site wreaking havoc on our county government, especially if other people on there pay attention and think for themselves.
Underhill awarded Jacqueline's daughter a job as intern and the person who publicly pointed that out got kicked off. I saw it happen. ECW.
So if someone is reading beware and discern the difference between politics and government..if possible.
But back to the point. Taking a screen shot of someone's phone in chambers certainly elevates one to a position of a tool. a tool taking a picture of another tool and posting it on a tool's facebook page.
Can't we make life a little more simple?
Get your story together, please, Mr. Tom. That picture isn’t of Melissa Pino’s phone. Is Bergosh your commisioner in your district? If he is why don’t you call him or hash things out in his office like most people would do?
QAnon is the group responsible for the capitol insurrection and got the QAnon girl shot to death. QAnon is on a mission to take over government elected seats to infiltrate (as they put it) cities. Look at this. QAnon bases it’s “rule of war” on disinformation to brainwash others into their cult beliefs. This was sent to LSU facility. If you know someone involved in QAnon stay far away from them!!!!!
https://faculty.lsu.edu/fakenews/elections/thethreatofqanon.php
Jacqueline Roger’s Escambia watch page is a toxic cespool where the lonely go to spread their misery.
Tom Jardine, just a minor point of correction, to make sure we can stay as fact-based as possible here: that's not my phone.
Also, your rhetorical maneuver of sprinkling a metonymy with a dash of ad hominem by saying "Mel's phone" instead of "privacy concern and security issue" is noted.
--Melissa Pino
I like it. I’ll use it but I’m not paying you royalties. Another character has come onto the scene so I’m adding his page and duties.
Sean Bullington you’re going to interrogate and water board anyone that doesn’t buy my book. Your going to obsessively stalk them and bully the heck out of them until they do. You can wear that Ron Burgandy looking 80’s suit jacket you wore at the meeting and I’ll get you a sword and shield to match the emojis you always use on your posts. It’s weird but It might scare someone into thinking your crazy so they buy my book to just get away from you. Your experience stalking Pino online will come in handy. But for the love of god take your blood pressure meds because I can see the veins bulging in your forehead from all of the anger bubbling up in your weird shaped head and your crooked looking eyes are popping out like a cartoon character. Push them back in dude I can’t afford a eye doctor until this book takes off.
Listen up Jacqueline Rogers, I read your poor firefighter story and a sad as it is I think you wrote it yourself. You also exaggerate about the ambulance situation. I know for a fact you do. I SEE PLENTY OF AMBULANCES COME INTO MY ER EVERY SINGLE DAY. Come to the ER and watch it for yourself (if you ever leave your hate page) instead of spreading your malicious lies because you HATE the county leaders. Emergency services aren’t perfect by any means but it’s no where near how you make it out to be in your hate group. Come see for yourself. GET YOUR FACTS PEOPLE FROM THE SOURCE NOT ECW . STOP BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ ONLINE AND GO TO THE SOURCE!!!!!!
So in a nut shell coping what you post and sharing it somewhere else is okay as well. You have lied online so the public does have a right to know. I think the problem you are having is your name is on that image and you were texting a few commissioners during a meeting.
Think for themselves???? Hahahahahaaa!!!! The people in that group don’t think for themselves they just follow along like dazed zombies!!!!
Mr. Jardine, I’m concerned about pictures taken of people’s text messages at the meetings. That’s creepy and unnerving. I don’t trust anyone that would stoop to that kind of low. If they don’t respect privacy of members of the audience in a government building what will they do next at the meetings? Try to get ahold of county employees personal information? Blow up the place?
Melissa you should really stop believing everything you read on the internet. It's screwing with your melon.
You commissioners, all four are visible on Pino's facebook page as friends and she continually tags you. You can make your setting to not take a tag. I predict some one is going to PRR Barry's texts.
Do you all know how to remove yourself from the drama triangle
Hint:
Follow the process and don't govern and politic via facebook.
Enemies accumulate.
https://www.techtello.com/how-to-opt-out-of-the-drama-triangle/
"Drama triangle, also called the victim triangle was developed as a social model in 1968 by a psychologist named Stephen Karpman. Karpman’s drama triangle is a powerful framework to understand the dysfunctional roles we adopt to deal with the conflict.
Each role in the drama triangle, victim, persecutor, rescuer represents our state of mind, how we think and the way we act when dealing with differences of opinion or disagreements with our own self or others.
The flawed thinking that we adopt stems from an internal desire to be right – right in how we feel, what we do and how we expect others to behave. The strong belief in the righteousness of our state leads to destructive interactions that drains our energy and devoids us from taking responsibility and creating possibility of a better life for ourselves and others.
Drama triangle provides an escape path to hide our underlying feelings and prevent us from addressing our real problems. Provoked by a personal conflict, the dysfunctional drama arises from latching on to one of the roles of the drama triangle that binds us in a co-dependency trap as we switch across the different roles of the triangle.
To learn how to shift the dynamics from drama to empowerment, it’s critical to understand the different roles of the drama triangle and the psychology that puts people in these states. "
Omg wtf is up with the Melissa Pino obsession??? Who is insanely obsessed enough to take pictures of someone’s phone that was texting her??? don’t think anyone is important enough for this level of obsesssion!!!!!
you obsessed nuts suffer from obsessive compulsion disorder!!!! Take your meds and snap👏back👏to👏reality👏
This post was funny as hell. Accurately scary but funny. Whoever wrote this I want to hang out with you.
“Jacqueline Rogers and Alex Arduini, Sean Bullington, have you broken into her house yet to take pictures of Melissa Pino while she’s sleeping? Or to find out if her husband is there so you can run to your pages on Facebook to interrogate her about it? Your obsessed enough to do that next.
To “here for the comments”, forget digging her relatives graves for dna, Jacqueline Rogers Alex Arduini and Sean Bullington will be sitting behind her at the next bocc meeting to pluck samples of her hair for dna so they can dig into her ancestor registry next”
What did Mel text to Barry during the meeting?
Eric thinks you have iron balls.
Did I get that right?
ROFLMAO
and it's all Q's fault..
see how that works.
You forgot to add stalk Melissa Pino, spread hate, obsess over Melissa Pino, spread hate, post screenshots from Melissa Pino, spread hate, hate Melissa Pino, spread hate, research her life story, spread hate, accuse everyone of being her, spread hate, blame all the county problems on her, spread hate. It’s nonstop.Their lives revolve around their hate for Melissa Pino.
This is going way too far. It’s invasion of privacy. It’s like the sickos that go around taking pictures up women’s skirts in public with selfie sticks without the victim knowing. Twisted bottom feeders of society. If this isn’t illegal the person responsible should at least be banned from future county meetings. He or she is a threat.
They create division and animosity. Their hatred for everyone is a reflection on themselves.
I somewhat watched this incident unfold. I was at a friend’s place on Palafox and she got word from another owner of the stunt they were pulling and that a reporter was along with them. So we watched from her balcony and the heavy set man was screaming into a bullhorn about discrimination. It was a side show to say the least. They were both shabbily dressed and I think they chose downtown businesses to target because they thought that’s where the money was at. Fortunately nothing came of it except awareness of who they are.
Anonymous aka obsessed Jacqueline Rogers, don’t you text commisiner underhill during meetings? After meetings too.
The Qfer is staking Eric and Eric texted Barry.
Is that correct?
That's not the real issue.
So what -- people write to him all the time and he doesn't answer..
But yes I agree, Arduini or who ever took a picture of another citizen's phone and posted is not a good person to behave that way.
Steer Clear.
I would hope the chairman has a hold on this.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention ole iron balls.. ;)
Opposing the Underhills has come at a great cost.
Steer Clear.
But clear the air on this issue, so thx for bringing it up and going ahead and putting it all out there.
Also
If the "People in fire are out there and no body cares" letter is real it may need some attention. It looks like a fabrication and an appeal to emotion as usual.
I’m like the sham wow guy - But wait there’s more.
Joel Cotton will have a page in the book and your duties are to follow your leaders of the lonely life club. Just follow them around and agree with everything they say and do everything they do. Those are the only skills I see you have. Have you had a lobotomy? It doesn’t matter just follow the leader. Collect screenshots along the way and take them to your leader to discuss your next move to harass people who don’t buy my book. And don’t forget to accuse everyone in town of being Melissa Pino.
are you all together at the store buying tar and feathers yet? Setting up the guillotine in the town center? 🥴
Is that why Commisioner underhill has so many enemies because he governs and politics on Facebook?
Who cares?
See how that works.
I don’t care what the texts said I only care that it happened. This is a concern for everyone in the building at the meetings. If I see someone behind me doing that I’m catching a battery charge.whoever the trash bag is that did it doesn’t deserve the privilege of attending another county meeting.
Bergosh I think you have iron balls too. Screenshot that low rent stalker.
Whether it was Alex Arduini that took the picture or someone else that was with him was it worth possibly being charged with a crime, sued, banned, ruining your reputation and credibility and making a mockery of the meetings for a text that says he has iron balls? Are you people in high school?
You’re dumber than a box of rocks and didn’t accomplish anything except making yourself look like a stalking creeper.
See how that works?
What happened to you Alex? You went straight downhill. You don’t even look like the same person. this is what you do now? Get some help man.
Not sure but I think the Under hills filed RO then send out people to attack. Can Anyone say abuse of power?
Wait just a minute here, you mean to tell me there’s another picture of someone’s else’s text? One about someone having iron balls? So that means Alex Arduini or whoever took pictures of several people’s phones? So there are several victims of this invasion of privacy?
Only old sour bittys that haven’t lived with a man in 30 years would be disturbed by someone saying iron balls in a text message. Didn’t Sean Bullington stand at the podium on video and tell the Commisioners they need to grow some kahunas? His friends thought that was funny but now they’re pretending to be offended by iron balls? Get outta here.
Personally I like the moniker "Iron Balls" better than Godzilla. Better fit. If the shoe fits wear it.
What does RO mean?
Since QAnon has been mentioned, I watched the show that was on tonight about QAnon and the
Insurrection at the capitol. it was an eye opener. The QAnon people that were interviewed were all unstable misfits that were looking for a group to fit into and they got lured into the cult. I have a much better understanding now. The things they said and believe was scary. I’ll steer clear of anyone involved in that mess.
It might be legal but it doesn’t make it right or acceptable behavior. Whomever did it should be banned. Pensacola is better than this. That was a real low move and says a lot mote about the person that took the pictures than the person texting. It was sleazy.
It’s a real shame this is the standard behavior from the so called community advocates now. Their so called advocacy has become dangerous and now our personal property isn’t respected or even safe from this group at the county meetings? As if there’s not enough to worry about these days now we have to worry about them intercepting our text messages?
Hey Miss the Mark Marlette and twinkle in the eye for Doug Jim Little at the PNJ. How about a new cartoon showing Bergosh as Iron Balls.. Or does the concept still escape you as usual. Try to keep up.
Wendy go home you’re drunk.
Saying iron balls is hardly frothing.
Sober up.
I’ve met Mrs. Bergosh and what she does at the clinic is a God send to a lot of people in the community. She has real class and does amazing work to help others.
Mrs.Underhill just gets drunk and bashes her husband’s coworkers on Facebook and fights with her neighbors.
#classless
Wait until you see the texts Underhill gets during the meetings. Request that PR. Talk about back door communications.
I think the guy Cotton they are using on ECW is also vulnerable. He lives in Myrtle grove and thinks Underhill got the streetlights there but Valentino did. The Underhills prey on those type of people.
Don't underestimate Pino. I would bet if she gets off social media as it is, and gets out into the neighborhoods and explains what she can do for them, rather than just be against Underhill, I would not be surprised if she takes D2.
It’s foolish to repeat ineffective actions.
It's up to her where she concentrates her focus and what the outcome will be.
Never underestimate anyone.
Whomever did this needs to get a life. Losers. Alex Arduini if you did this you should be ashamed.
You live with your mom and sit online with a bunch of old lady’s everyday stirring trouble obsessively harassing people and you don’t have a job.
Invading someone’s privacy then posting the pictures online to try and hurt them is real low.
This incident is just pure trashiness. But reading the comments (as savage as some are) gives me a little hope that people are opening their eyes to the sad reality of the extremes some people have gone to, that stem from nothing but hate in their hearts, and their deranged determination to “win”. In reality, the only thing you’re winning is a reputation of being a psycho!
The handful of individuals that incessantly spew hatred, sow intentional division, the manipulation tactics, the cons, harassment, bullying, invading privacy, the unnecessary drama you thrive on, has become a real blight on our community. I’ve seen the division and plans to harass that you do behind the scenes and it’s downright evil! If any of you have any self respect, or any semblance of reality left, you’ll realize your tactics are actually impeding progress instead of making any, which harms the entire community.
Intentional breeding of hatred isn’t how effective advocacy works. Advocacy isn’t creating a mob mentality to harass anyone that has a different opinion, or storm the Commisioners meetings with intent to bully and demand your way. That’s the tactic the QAnon freaks used at the capitol and that didn’t quite work out the way they planned.
You want change? Get off of your asses and away from social media and be a productive member of society!
And Alex, wise up and stop trying to spread your insane QAnon bs into the community. I’ve witnessed your QAnon affiliation (despite the bold face lies you tell to deny it now), and the tactics you’ve used for a year now, and because I spoke up about it, I’ve endured some of your harassment and the disturbing blatant lies you’ve told about me. You don’t intimidate me, and you and your buddies will not harass me, or slander me ever again! I have every right to voice my opinion/concerns about local politics without being harassed by your craziness!
Perfect. Victoria Perry left Harvard a decade before I even got there, Arduini. Nice work with those bread crumbs. (See below)
I would like to think that this would put an end to their psycho babble, but sadly it won't, as they are apparently too far gone down the rabbit hole.
And no, Sean Bullington, it was not a fake email; I elided the recipient, as I wasn't going to hang somebody out to dry at the Kennedy School so you and your sea lion comrades could pester him to death with your relentless off-topic barkings.
So quit conflating my honest communications with the underhanded tactics of your Q cohort, as with Alex Arduini pretending over on ECW that he has been writing in posts here with his real name that Commissioner Bergosh refuses to post. Oh, and that I am a moderator here. Dude--I mean REALLY--there are private messages demonstrating that Arduini is the author of some of these anonymous posts.
Are you even aware of that Sean? Or is he playing you? I wish you would take a break, chill out, and find a way to climb out of your conspiracy foxhole.
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Re: Potential Security Alert
Inbox
Melissa Pino
8:14 AM (58 minutes ago)
to [X], me
Oh gosh, [X], I'm sorry I myself didn't do a better job checking on that. I doubt it's necessary to be in touch with the IMF--no doubt they have their finger on the pulse of these global conspiracy theories. I was more worried about what was at one time my own backyard, and the people in it.
Thank you for responding, really appreciate it,
Melissa Pino
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On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 7:54 AM [X]@hks.harvard.edu> wrote:
Hello Melissa,
You’re correct that I handle [X], not security issues. As far as I can see, Victoria Perry has not been at Harvard since the early 1990s and is not a professor here. She has been at the IMF for many years. Therefore, this would not be something for us to pursue. You may want to contact the IMF directly. I’m sorry that you’ve been caught up in these attacks.
Regards
[X]
Q, A lot of us up here in Century support it.
I can’t believe you are all falling for this! Mel is playing you all for stupid fools!
A lot of you in century support marrying your relatives too.
Will someone take one for the team and date ole Jacqueline Rogers she wouldn’t be as nasty and miserable if she had a man. Thank you,
Pensacola
Joanie said...Q, A lot of us up here in Century support it. June 21, 2021 at 9:17 PM
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Thank you for your honesty. Of course there are a lot of Q in Century. And throughout the North County, and a solidification with white supremacist "militias" (there's a such thing as a real militia, and these ain't it) like the Oath Keepers and Three Percenters. The participation in these radicalized groups by area retired military is appalling and harrowing. Some of the results of this nexus were in full display at the insurrection at the Capitol. And the problem isn't limited to north Escambia and Santa Rosa, but only the most concentrated there. Q-official and Q-lite, e.g., and its various offshoot conspiracy theories and bias, has a big following in some Tate High circles (please recognize I didn't say "all," "everybody," or even "most"). This had very bad ramifications in our County government as staff died of a pandemic that so many of the new administration and new directors over key departments considered a hoax, they never even held memorials for the people lost.
And those in this community who have been plugged in to the potential dangers from the beginning, and don't simply bury their heads in the sand rather than thinking about the potential consequences, are well aware of exactly how Q has morphed in the wake of the loss of their dear leader, and how the lost souls left behind are now cohering with other conspiracy and hate groups into the "We Are All Q" phase of their perceived "war."
So many people have climbed out of the conspiracy trenches post covid and post Trump, and regained their bearings and perspective to realize they were had. Those who remain,, however--who knows what the true percentage of believers are as opposed to, say, post uprising at the capital?--are the ones most hardened into conspiracy and least likely to regain their moorings in the near future.
The drop in the iconography, hashtags, and buzz words has fooled nobody really looking, and is a clear concerted effort--much like we watched a lot of people we know fly onto Signal here in the week after the insurrection. That was pretty mind-blowing. You know who else watched that happen? The federal government.
As those of us who have been loosely tracking Q activity in this area have become hardened and fatalistic about the lax and compromised approach of local agencies towards this issue (and others), we know better than to rely on those agencies for information or protection. (It's not the manpower issues that bother me personally, which are very real. It's the cowardice of recognizing it's an issue, knowing it's here and even in the ranks, refusing to acknowledge it, and crossing fingers as a plan.)
I've reached out on a federal level to ask for opinions on the legality of what happened and the potential security issues. Perhaps I'll get a response, perhaps not. They are absolutely inundated with oversight and signal right now, as the FBI warned just last week that Qers and the groups they are locking arms might be escalating towards violence again soon.
It's apparent, the growing hysteria from people in this area who frequent the various conspiracy sites, and can't throw the increasingly disturbing Russian propaganda up fast enough. And their rise in panic has no correlation in local or real world events. Of course many think there is some vague correlation or cause. But their pitch is going off the rails, while the general trend is an easing of anxieties over covid. That sort of disparity is not a good thing. Nor is local agencies laughing off local chatter. Personally, the whack jobs who have presented themselves at the "vanguard" of this hysteria in the last week are not what actually concern me. They're just the visible markers of a whole lotta people who are watching and waiting for the next "sign." And growing impatient for lack of one.
--Melissa Pino
The fools I see are y’all that obsess over her. Y’all give her power in your head she lives in your heads rent free. It’s the Mel show playing in your head all day all night.
Oh, also, I just saw Arduini is throwing voices on Teri N in that last comment, pretending to be her while claiming I am playing people. So to the real Joanie, should have realized that might not be you in the Q Century comment. Duh. Sorry, Mel
Have you considered medication for your paranoia. No body in their right mind could come to such a long explanation for local citizens that are just pissed off at local government. You scare me more than any Qer.
-Elmer F.
I am the devil!
My 11 year old is more mature than this. Grow up.
I’ve watched Jacqueline Rogers stalk Melissa Pino online for years. She makes posts or mentions her name at least 10 times a week on her site. Melissa might be a nutty but Jacqueline Rogers is vicious. I was included in a group text last year about Galvez Landing and the things Jacqueline said about Melissa were so bad that I distanced myself from the group. Don’t let her fool you into thinking she’s a nice innocent grandmother. Once she thinks you’re an enemy or you’re smarter then her she can turn into your worst nightmare..
Backwoods rednecks in century also support racism so it makes sense you’d support q too.
Jacqueline Rogers Alex Arduini and Sean Bullington are the most vindictive people involved in county politics. If you only knew what they say and plan together you’d be shocked.commissioner underhill and his wife too.
Alex Arduini is pretending to be Teri N because he saw her at the meeting with Melissa Pino so Teri will be the next target of harassment.
I haven’t lived in the county all that long but after I moved here I joined Escambia citizens watch and I do see Jacqueline Aimee Rogers talking about Melissa Pino a lot in a mean way. There’s four of them that are the same ones bringing her up all the time and posting screenshots of what she says. Why are they at war? I don’t get it. If you don’t like someone ignore them. You don’t have to attack them all the time and spy on then to see everything they say. You can be an adult and stop looking at what she says. It looks petty to me. Is this how people always act around here?
No one cares enough about the county to date that scary hag. She reminds me of Kathy Bates in Misery.
How can we post pictures here? I have screenshots from a group chat between Jacqueline Rogers Alex Arduini and the underhill’s. If it’s not illegal to take pictures of someone’s phone over their shoulder it won’t be illegal for me to post the screenshots. It’ll settle how they are once and for all.
Anonymous 3:59 YES!!!!Jacqueline Rodgers acts just like the obsessive crazy Annie in Misery.
Alex Arduini reminds me of Ted Bundy.
Jacqueline is married with 13 kids. Her husband is a widow because of facebook and her vendettas though.
Mr. Bergosh, I live in your district and despite all of the hateful people on ECW I’ve always liked you and thought you were fair. Thank you for your service to the county and the school board.
Jacqueline Rogers, first let me say I’m not Melissa before I get accused of that. I’m a member of your page but I can’t say anything in disagreement with you without fear of being attacked. You are scaring away members of your group with your personal attacks. There’s 3 others regulars that join in to baxk you up with the attacks and it’s put a bad taste in my mouth. I want information on the county not information on personal vendettas. I don’t even like the personal attacks on the Commisioners. It’s done in bad taste. Please consider what I’m saying before everyone gets fed up and goes elsewhere for county happenings.
I think Jacqueline thinks she’s doing good but she’s not. The personal spiteful attacks on people in the community by her and a couple of the regular commenters is tiresome. It’s stalking and drama that our county doesn’t need. Please stop. #StopTheHate
Jacqueline Rogers is spiteful and vindictive. She texts her friends and encourages them to gang up on Pino and Bergosh and Barry. She told some regs not to post screenshots or talk about Pino anymore but she tells her puppet Joel to do it for her every time she sees Pino post about misinformation. She stalks Pino’s page like a hawk. They see the comments on this blog and they know they look like the stalkers they really are. Escambia County Citizens Watch is a rag run by a hag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-0PQfMlhL4
I left ECW tonight after reading some hateful comments posted about the homeless. I’ve reached my limit of reading their negativity and nonstop hate for others. I don’t know how any can wallow in that much misery.
Does anyone know of any other Pensacola group pages that aren’t so toxic?
I’m reference to the topic. it might not of been illegal but it shows what the vengeful people running ECW are capable of.
Jacqueline Rogers will stop at nothing her hatred of Pino is very sad. I am wondering how low she will go to get her way. This lady would even trash her own family to score points. O wonder if her own kids stand in fear of her she is a dictator
Alex, drugs QAnon garbage and now this? Come back to reality and get some help man
They should get her a treadmill and a dog muzzle next Mother’s Day. Leading cause of morbid obesity is too much time spent on Facebook obsessing over other people lives
One would almost feel sorry for somebody like Melissa Pino. I can say without a doubt all fourteen comments posted on June 22 are Ms. Pino. I suspect many of the others are the result of her colorful imagination and desire to feel relevant. Numerous comments are embellished with the same lies that Melissa states on her own page. She even posted a YouTube link to a music artist extremely similar to the same artists she consistently posts on personal page. Less is more would be good advice to take to heart Melissa. I’m so sorry that you feel the need to go to this extreme for attention.
432
try Escambia Public Forum
facebook group
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2631052333584444
that one is not polluted yet
to Anon 432
@Guess Who Four Thirty Two
Pino might post it for you.
Jacqueline Rogers, not every ghost you see is Melissa. People have eyes they can see your obsessed with her. You brutalize Commisioner Bergosh because he’s friendly with her. People aren’t as stupid as you think.
Yep, Pino is all over the comments--using this blog as her own page. She was blocked on FB for her nasty mouth--guess Jeff doesn't give a flip.
Advice to Jacqueline Rogers
There’s over 300,000 residents in Escambia County and not all of them are Melissa.
There’s 8,000 people on your page and not all of them are Melissa.
8,000 people see your personal attacks and some of those 8,000 know for a fact about your vindictive ways.
Get away from your internet world and rejoin the real world.
Your paranoia is ruining your life,
Mel Pino is the absolute worst, She is always talking about other people but never has any constructive ideas or solutions. Problems are always someone’s fault and that’s it, no productive ideas, only talking bad about others. Not a good look.
Preventing people from commenting is unconstitutional.
Very concerned.
Those posts are intentionally made to look like they’re coming from Melissa. Open your eyes.
Who took the picture? Sean Bullington is saying Alex Arduini did it. Alex posted it but he’s telling people Sean did it. One of them should fess up.
Even if it’s legal it’s still wrong. Why is anyone spying on anyone else? We want peace in our little community not this.
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